nixstor
07-06 07:10 PM
please, go to http://www.wandtv.com/
Is it the synopsis or the total video?
Is it the synopsis or the total video?
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yabadaba
12-13 01:27 PM
yea this is correct. a member named united nations posted a detailed break down on immigration portal a few months back. This has been implemented by the DOS by suspending the AC21 rule of a variable cap and enforcing a hard cap of 7%. This was mentioned in the november or december 2005 bulletin.
From my perspective I think its a travesty that when the UCIS and the DOL has classified some of us as "exceptional" aliens, we can still not adjust our status because we were born in India or China while Mexicans with the same qualifications can. If the country limit is to avoid monopolization of numbers and enhance diversity...all categories for Mexico should be "U"
---post from immigration portal
indian_gc_ocean
Registered User Join Date: Jul 2006
Posts: 194
The following is from November 2005 visa bulletin published October 2005.
"During FY due to anticipated heavy demand, the AC21 provisions are not expected to apply, and the amount of Employment numbers available to any single country will be subject to the 7% cap."
Well, now I realized it is not DOS but again its me who was not upto date with the trend. This means that India cannot go beyond its 7% using unused visas. In the same bulletin there is something that indicated that it allocated too many visas to India in the past. Most likely DOS does not take any action until ROW eb3, eb2 and eb1 are current. Now I have also understood why the perm is necessary at the this time for row. Perm helps row move faster thatway in the loooooong run helping India when all the row is current.
There will not be any spillover to any India categories in the near future. This is the reason why India eb2 went unavailable. EB1 will soon follow the case. Eventhough eb3 moves, it was like unavailable for a long time. 1400 greencards a year in each category (excluding spouses from this ordeal) is hardly enough for India. I doubt there would be any encouraging direction in future as India had consumed too many visas in the past years. This is sort of balancing act as far as DOS is concerned. Only a change of heart can save India.
This is really bad for India as most of the people applied for 485 after spending nearly many years in BEC (that itself a retrogression). With Philly clearing non-rir 2001 eb2 labors, can't wait to see october's eb2 retrogression dates.
I wouldn't care about where the overflow/spillover goes as it is not for India.
Atlast, the email from murthy.com about eb2 visas going unavailable did not surprise me. My parents named me right and I am an enlightened person now.
From my perspective I think its a travesty that when the UCIS and the DOL has classified some of us as "exceptional" aliens, we can still not adjust our status because we were born in India or China while Mexicans with the same qualifications can. If the country limit is to avoid monopolization of numbers and enhance diversity...all categories for Mexico should be "U"
---post from immigration portal
indian_gc_ocean
Registered User Join Date: Jul 2006
Posts: 194
The following is from November 2005 visa bulletin published October 2005.
"During FY due to anticipated heavy demand, the AC21 provisions are not expected to apply, and the amount of Employment numbers available to any single country will be subject to the 7% cap."
Well, now I realized it is not DOS but again its me who was not upto date with the trend. This means that India cannot go beyond its 7% using unused visas. In the same bulletin there is something that indicated that it allocated too many visas to India in the past. Most likely DOS does not take any action until ROW eb3, eb2 and eb1 are current. Now I have also understood why the perm is necessary at the this time for row. Perm helps row move faster thatway in the loooooong run helping India when all the row is current.
There will not be any spillover to any India categories in the near future. This is the reason why India eb2 went unavailable. EB1 will soon follow the case. Eventhough eb3 moves, it was like unavailable for a long time. 1400 greencards a year in each category (excluding spouses from this ordeal) is hardly enough for India. I doubt there would be any encouraging direction in future as India had consumed too many visas in the past years. This is sort of balancing act as far as DOS is concerned. Only a change of heart can save India.
This is really bad for India as most of the people applied for 485 after spending nearly many years in BEC (that itself a retrogression). With Philly clearing non-rir 2001 eb2 labors, can't wait to see october's eb2 retrogression dates.
I wouldn't care about where the overflow/spillover goes as it is not for India.
Atlast, the email from murthy.com about eb2 visas going unavailable did not surprise me. My parents named me right and I am an enlightened person now.
ganguteli
06-01 09:42 AM
When is this going for voting?
It is already been voted. (by you) and is sure to pass by a big majority vote :D
It is already been voted. (by you) and is sure to pass by a big majority vote :D
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ganguteli
04-13 10:05 PM
Its good that you are thinking of ideas but I do not think you know about the reason why we are all here on IV. Here is why.
#1 You need o spend time on IV and learn about it rather than just coming , opening a new ID and posting a big idea.
#2 You have not seeing Lobbying in Action. Go see yesterday's 60 minutes and how IRA controls US politics via lobbying
#3 If charity was the way to get things done, Bill Gates would have been the first to get unlimited H1B visas every year for Microsoft.
#4 You need to establish your credibility on the forum by contributing so that people take you seriously.
#5 If you really want to raise $5 million and donate to America it will do nothing. How about raising 5 Million and donating in Africa and feed kids dying of hunger. It is better than investing in education of US kids who are anyways pampered and spoiled by free school education, free transport and free meals.
#6 Maybe you should do a lottery of $5 million once collected and ask all Americans if they want to win it. You will get more media attention if that is your purpose.
Now coming to the point of raising 5 million. Forget it man. Desis and Chinese are very frugal. Unless they are in deep immigration problem they will not even give you $5.
Now tell me how you are going to get email addresses. That is really a big plan. I think you should get those email addresses and give it to IV. But how will you do it? There is no such list buddy.
#1 You need o spend time on IV and learn about it rather than just coming , opening a new ID and posting a big idea.
#2 You have not seeing Lobbying in Action. Go see yesterday's 60 minutes and how IRA controls US politics via lobbying
#3 If charity was the way to get things done, Bill Gates would have been the first to get unlimited H1B visas every year for Microsoft.
#4 You need to establish your credibility on the forum by contributing so that people take you seriously.
#5 If you really want to raise $5 million and donate to America it will do nothing. How about raising 5 Million and donating in Africa and feed kids dying of hunger. It is better than investing in education of US kids who are anyways pampered and spoiled by free school education, free transport and free meals.
#6 Maybe you should do a lottery of $5 million once collected and ask all Americans if they want to win it. You will get more media attention if that is your purpose.
Now coming to the point of raising 5 million. Forget it man. Desis and Chinese are very frugal. Unless they are in deep immigration problem they will not even give you $5.
Now tell me how you are going to get email addresses. That is really a big plan. I think you should get those email addresses and give it to IV. But how will you do it? There is no such list buddy.
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ragz4u
02-20 10:16 PM
These are the posts by the user hadron:
For anyone intending to 'vote with their wallet', please keep the following in mind:
- Only US citizens are allowed to contribute to political campaigns (it is even illegal to give money to a citizen friend and have him contribute as a straw-man)
- there are regulations regarding political action committees (PAC) controlled by 'agents of a foreign power'
We are well aware of this and WILL not be contributing to any political campaign. And in any case, where does contributing to political campaign come in the picture? We are just trying to get ourselves heard! Is that illegal in this 'free' country too?
While I appreciate the enthusiasm of the folks setting up IV.com (and I have no reason to doubt the sincerity and honesty of their efforts), I don't see a whole lot on the groups website dealing with the legal aspects noted above.
And then when I posted:
A lot of foreign governments and entities legally employ lobbyists in Washington. They are merely getting your voice heard by the people's representatives!
I am not a US Civics expert, but neither can be everybody else here!
hadron, just because somebody is Board-certified in one field of Medicine does not make them experts in everything else!
Please expound your expert views on how to win this battle, and we will follow you if that is the better way! Otherwise, please remember that those who forget the lessons of history (i.e. S 1932 defeat) will have to see them repeated!
This was what he posted:
Correct, and they are very careful to be registered with the secretary of state as a PAC or public interest lobbying organization. As you point out I am certainly not an expert on the law in this area, but before you start collecting a lot of money, make sure you have competent advice from someone who is (I looked into registering an immigration related PAC a year ago, after realizing the red-tape and political minefields involved I decided not to do so).
We are again beating around the bush here. As I have mentioned earlier, we are registering ourselves as a 501C4 org and are not a Political Action Committee from any angle. Hence the red-tape etc that hadron is talking about is not applicable here at all
Quote:
Please expound your expert views on how to win this battle, and we will follow you if that is the better way!
I actually don't know how to do that.
The reality is, in washington there are two things that open the door of a lawmakers office to a lobbyist:
- a check from the PAC aligned with his cause
- evidence that he represents measurable share of voting citizens in the home district of the representative or senator
And do you see the problem here?
You guys can't legally contribute to political campaigns and you don't represent voting citizens. So, having a lobbyist might be a first step, but it doesn't mean that your cause will be heard.
Hadron seems to have a very myopic view for everything. Anything and everything for him leads to a political contributions. How about trying the old fashioned way of making the lawmakers aware of the situation of legal immigrants. I don't know whether he has ever seen a reply to a fax from any senator/rep, but all of these misconstrue our request as being either a) A request to increase H1b quota or b) Give amnesty to illegal immigrants. The fact of the matter is the lawmakers do NOT know about our plight. If you read another post in this forum by the CA team that visited Sen. Dianne Feinstein's office, it came out very loud and clear! They had no clue about our plight. This coming from a senator who handles all the high tech firms in Silicon Valley with thousands of legal alien constituents! Imagine how much a senator from a state with no techie firms (like say South Dakota/Wyoming etc) know about us? Nothing, Nada, Zilch....but their vote is worth as much as any other senator.....so the primary aim for us as an org is to make every lawmaker realize our plight and influnce their decisions
Our main ally in the immigration arena is the US chamber of commerce. They are spending considerable money on advocating for employment based immigration reform (their main thrust however is getting access to unskilled workers, either through a guest worker program or through legalization. in a secondary way they are interested in higher H1b quotas to get access to cheap professionals, fixing retrogression is not very high on their agenda). Have you talked to other organizations classically on our side yet ?
What makes Hadron think that what he believes (that US chamber of commerce is our main ally) is gospel? In case he does not know, there are many other orgs that have a similar agenda. We have made significant progress in establishing relations with many of these orgs. Unfortunately, we cannot reveal everything here. There is more to it than meets the eye! Thats where QGA is helping us immensely
Quote:
Otherwise, please remember that those who forget the lessons of history (i.e. S 1932 defeat) will have to see them repeated!
Please, save me the melodramatics.
Immigration bills get introduced by the dozen every year, most of them don't even make it into committee (but every time one gets introduced, people here on this board get all excited that finally 'relief is here'.) Even if a coalition of influential senators picks up the issue, there is no guarantee that it will go anywhere.
True, but how often do you see rallies across the country either pro or anti immigrants? How often do you hear about immigration being a hot issue and being discussed on CNN/Fox everyday? How often does the President address it in his State of the Union address? The fact of the matter is that this issue is really hot right now. Do not forget that this is an election year. A lot of the reps hoping to get reelected from border states like TX.AZ etc had promised their constituents that they will tackle immigration reforms. If they do nothing, they will face the wrath!
If there was ever a chance of an immigration bill passing, it is now. If that does not happen, forget about any chance of any immigration related stuff happening in the next 5 years. The question we need to ask ourselves right now is, 'Am I going to TRY to do something this time or should I try it after 5 years'. I know my answer is NOW. But if you want to be pessimistic and think that no bill might get passed, you are in the wrong place. You are better off visiting murthy.com and hope that she announces rapid movement of dates. the primary reason we are all converging here is because we believe that something will happen to the immigration bill and we want to make sure we are not forgotten
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This is last post:
I am not angry at anyone, and I don't think that any of my posts can be misconstrued to convey that impression.
I think it is a good idea to start (another) lobbying organization for immigrant rights as the existing ones have a interests very different from us. All the latino groups are only interested in family immigration and legalization of illegals, employment based immigration is only a little blip on their radar screen. Industry on the other hand has their own agenda, again not one coinciding with our issues.
I just think that some of the people involved in IV.com are taking step2 before they have taken step1. They have a nice website (no big suprise with a project run by IT professionals) and are already soliciting contributions, but some aspects of it make me wonder about the level of professionalism involved.
Just to clarify, we are all people with daily jobs other than Immigration Voice. This is a volunteer organization. Do not expect a macromedia flash welcome screen.
So as apparently some of the founders of this organization are present on this board, I would like the following questions answered:
- what is the legal form of your non-profit organization ?
Its on our home page, but just in case, we have applied for 501 C4 status
- is this entity registered in any state, if yes in which ?
Again, the address is listed on the web site.....but since you did not bother to check it, it is NJ
- who is registered as the owner of the organizations bank account ?
It is owned by Immigration Voice. Remember, this is a NON Profit organization. It cannot be 'owned' by a person. Again this is on the web site..
- what is the structure of the organization ? Do you have dues paying members, is there a board of directors, trustees ??
Yes....if you know about 501 C4 orgs, they all NEED to have an org structure and there are officers and a board of trustees
- who are the officers of the organization ?
Everything is in place. 501 C4 cannot be registered without that.
For anyone intending to 'vote with their wallet', please keep the following in mind:
- Only US citizens are allowed to contribute to political campaigns (it is even illegal to give money to a citizen friend and have him contribute as a straw-man)
- there are regulations regarding political action committees (PAC) controlled by 'agents of a foreign power'
We are well aware of this and WILL not be contributing to any political campaign. And in any case, where does contributing to political campaign come in the picture? We are just trying to get ourselves heard! Is that illegal in this 'free' country too?
While I appreciate the enthusiasm of the folks setting up IV.com (and I have no reason to doubt the sincerity and honesty of their efforts), I don't see a whole lot on the groups website dealing with the legal aspects noted above.
And then when I posted:
A lot of foreign governments and entities legally employ lobbyists in Washington. They are merely getting your voice heard by the people's representatives!
I am not a US Civics expert, but neither can be everybody else here!
hadron, just because somebody is Board-certified in one field of Medicine does not make them experts in everything else!
Please expound your expert views on how to win this battle, and we will follow you if that is the better way! Otherwise, please remember that those who forget the lessons of history (i.e. S 1932 defeat) will have to see them repeated!
This was what he posted:
Correct, and they are very careful to be registered with the secretary of state as a PAC or public interest lobbying organization. As you point out I am certainly not an expert on the law in this area, but before you start collecting a lot of money, make sure you have competent advice from someone who is (I looked into registering an immigration related PAC a year ago, after realizing the red-tape and political minefields involved I decided not to do so).
We are again beating around the bush here. As I have mentioned earlier, we are registering ourselves as a 501C4 org and are not a Political Action Committee from any angle. Hence the red-tape etc that hadron is talking about is not applicable here at all
Quote:
Please expound your expert views on how to win this battle, and we will follow you if that is the better way!
I actually don't know how to do that.
The reality is, in washington there are two things that open the door of a lawmakers office to a lobbyist:
- a check from the PAC aligned with his cause
- evidence that he represents measurable share of voting citizens in the home district of the representative or senator
And do you see the problem here?
You guys can't legally contribute to political campaigns and you don't represent voting citizens. So, having a lobbyist might be a first step, but it doesn't mean that your cause will be heard.
Hadron seems to have a very myopic view for everything. Anything and everything for him leads to a political contributions. How about trying the old fashioned way of making the lawmakers aware of the situation of legal immigrants. I don't know whether he has ever seen a reply to a fax from any senator/rep, but all of these misconstrue our request as being either a) A request to increase H1b quota or b) Give amnesty to illegal immigrants. The fact of the matter is the lawmakers do NOT know about our plight. If you read another post in this forum by the CA team that visited Sen. Dianne Feinstein's office, it came out very loud and clear! They had no clue about our plight. This coming from a senator who handles all the high tech firms in Silicon Valley with thousands of legal alien constituents! Imagine how much a senator from a state with no techie firms (like say South Dakota/Wyoming etc) know about us? Nothing, Nada, Zilch....but their vote is worth as much as any other senator.....so the primary aim for us as an org is to make every lawmaker realize our plight and influnce their decisions
Our main ally in the immigration arena is the US chamber of commerce. They are spending considerable money on advocating for employment based immigration reform (their main thrust however is getting access to unskilled workers, either through a guest worker program or through legalization. in a secondary way they are interested in higher H1b quotas to get access to cheap professionals, fixing retrogression is not very high on their agenda). Have you talked to other organizations classically on our side yet ?
What makes Hadron think that what he believes (that US chamber of commerce is our main ally) is gospel? In case he does not know, there are many other orgs that have a similar agenda. We have made significant progress in establishing relations with many of these orgs. Unfortunately, we cannot reveal everything here. There is more to it than meets the eye! Thats where QGA is helping us immensely
Quote:
Otherwise, please remember that those who forget the lessons of history (i.e. S 1932 defeat) will have to see them repeated!
Please, save me the melodramatics.
Immigration bills get introduced by the dozen every year, most of them don't even make it into committee (but every time one gets introduced, people here on this board get all excited that finally 'relief is here'.) Even if a coalition of influential senators picks up the issue, there is no guarantee that it will go anywhere.
True, but how often do you see rallies across the country either pro or anti immigrants? How often do you hear about immigration being a hot issue and being discussed on CNN/Fox everyday? How often does the President address it in his State of the Union address? The fact of the matter is that this issue is really hot right now. Do not forget that this is an election year. A lot of the reps hoping to get reelected from border states like TX.AZ etc had promised their constituents that they will tackle immigration reforms. If they do nothing, they will face the wrath!
If there was ever a chance of an immigration bill passing, it is now. If that does not happen, forget about any chance of any immigration related stuff happening in the next 5 years. The question we need to ask ourselves right now is, 'Am I going to TRY to do something this time or should I try it after 5 years'. I know my answer is NOW. But if you want to be pessimistic and think that no bill might get passed, you are in the wrong place. You are better off visiting murthy.com and hope that she announces rapid movement of dates. the primary reason we are all converging here is because we believe that something will happen to the immigration bill and we want to make sure we are not forgotten
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
This is last post:
I am not angry at anyone, and I don't think that any of my posts can be misconstrued to convey that impression.
I think it is a good idea to start (another) lobbying organization for immigrant rights as the existing ones have a interests very different from us. All the latino groups are only interested in family immigration and legalization of illegals, employment based immigration is only a little blip on their radar screen. Industry on the other hand has their own agenda, again not one coinciding with our issues.
I just think that some of the people involved in IV.com are taking step2 before they have taken step1. They have a nice website (no big suprise with a project run by IT professionals) and are already soliciting contributions, but some aspects of it make me wonder about the level of professionalism involved.
Just to clarify, we are all people with daily jobs other than Immigration Voice. This is a volunteer organization. Do not expect a macromedia flash welcome screen.
So as apparently some of the founders of this organization are present on this board, I would like the following questions answered:
- what is the legal form of your non-profit organization ?
Its on our home page, but just in case, we have applied for 501 C4 status
- is this entity registered in any state, if yes in which ?
Again, the address is listed on the web site.....but since you did not bother to check it, it is NJ
- who is registered as the owner of the organizations bank account ?
It is owned by Immigration Voice. Remember, this is a NON Profit organization. It cannot be 'owned' by a person. Again this is on the web site..
- what is the structure of the organization ? Do you have dues paying members, is there a board of directors, trustees ??
Yes....if you know about 501 C4 orgs, they all NEED to have an org structure and there are officers and a board of trustees
- who are the officers of the organization ?
Everything is in place. 501 C4 cannot be registered without that.
realizeit
02-11 11:53 PM
Mr MPADAPA,
I know you have spent some time analyzing the whole stuff and came with your conclusions. At the end, if someone says that the crux of your conclusions are wrong, for an emotional person, it would be tough to take. A rational person would take it lightly and think before responding. In your immediate previous reply, you just cherry picked a quote from my previous reply and put that as my interpretation. Please do not put words into my mouth. My reply has been pasted below in its entirety.
You have campared the paragraph with NumbersUSA argument etc. Dear friend, my argument was exactly opposite to that paragraph. I think, you didn't get the meaning of the paragraph itself. My paragraph contained phrases like "If your argument is correct..", ". If the unused can be given to ..". etc, which makes the argument exactly opposite to what mentioned there. So, that means I believe exactly opposite to those arguments.
I acknowledge that you have every right to interpret the law in whichever way you want. My point is that, it really doesn't matter to all of the folks who applied in EB2 and waiting for GC. The thing that really matters is the way in which USCIS acts this year. They can act in whatever way they want. This year, if they say, there won't be any family visa wastage, we will get nothing. Contrary to that, if they see that by the end of the year there is a chance for 15K family vis wastage, they may allocate that to employment category.
To all EB2 folks out there: No need to really feel bad or happy about the analysis of Mr. MPADAPA.
My general advice to anyone who put forward an argument for propaganda and a campaign is: Don't massage the facts, don't twist the facts, don't over analyze, don't under analyze, Also don't say that your interpretation is the final verdict. Because, even if we can analyze all the immigration related laws in the whole Federal register, we may not be able to come to a final conclusion....!! Why? Because you don't have a clue what is in the field manual and internal memos of the USCIS and you don't know how they procedurely allocate spill over etc on each year. As long as USCIS and DOS can use the terms "In Anticipation..", "As per our expectations..", no one will be able to hold them accountable for the visa wastage.
MPADAPA..you may continue your argument/discussions, if you think this is a moot point. But I don't believe so.
If you can prove your initial basic argument with complete facts and details, I will openly declare, I am wrong! Your original argument was "Since the family category used up all Visa numbers in 2008, in 2009 EB2 cannot expect any spill over from Family category and hence we need to expect slow movement....".
Instead of proving the above, you may cherry pick my statements and continue to beat about the bush. I am giving up here my friend.
Good luck :)
realizeit, you just didn't get the unused visa calculation.
By the way your interpretation quoted below is exactly what numbersUSA used to claim that there is no visa available for recapture. And they used that argument to shoot down our recapture bill.
Knowing that PD's aren't going to move forward drastically, we need to start working towards some thing drastic like a bill/amendment. Or we can sit and mull over it and wait until the second week of Aug (when Sep bulletin is announced) to show our frustration.
My complete earlier reply
Still I disagree my friend. I know, law is the law! What I am disagreeing is your interpretation and conclusion.
In reality, towards the end of the Fiscal year, if USCIS/State Dept finds that visas will go unused in one category, they can use the spill over rules. So, if there are some potential unused visas in Family category they can add it to Employment category and vice versa. This will all work in the same year. It will not work or get transferred to a following year. In your initial argument, you said, because all the family visas for 2008 are completely used, we won't get anything from that category as spill over during this year (2009).
If your argument is correct, there won't be any need for recapture laws that we all are working for. If the unused can be given to the next year, no visa will get wasted. USCIS/DOS can just give the unused in family category to Employment category in the following year and vice versa.
In reality that is not the case. Visa number in one year will not flow to the next. So, your original argument is completely wrong. If there is nothing left in family category for the year 2008, that has nothing to do with the expected spill over to Employment category from family category in 2009.
In my opinion, law is complex and snippets of the law from here and there won't will not clarify anything. So, if anyone would like to be optimistic, stay there, to be pessimistic, stay there - this whole argument by MPADAPA is not enough to change your state of mind :) Just my observation!
I know you have spent some time analyzing the whole stuff and came with your conclusions. At the end, if someone says that the crux of your conclusions are wrong, for an emotional person, it would be tough to take. A rational person would take it lightly and think before responding. In your immediate previous reply, you just cherry picked a quote from my previous reply and put that as my interpretation. Please do not put words into my mouth. My reply has been pasted below in its entirety.
You have campared the paragraph with NumbersUSA argument etc. Dear friend, my argument was exactly opposite to that paragraph. I think, you didn't get the meaning of the paragraph itself. My paragraph contained phrases like "If your argument is correct..", ". If the unused can be given to ..". etc, which makes the argument exactly opposite to what mentioned there. So, that means I believe exactly opposite to those arguments.
I acknowledge that you have every right to interpret the law in whichever way you want. My point is that, it really doesn't matter to all of the folks who applied in EB2 and waiting for GC. The thing that really matters is the way in which USCIS acts this year. They can act in whatever way they want. This year, if they say, there won't be any family visa wastage, we will get nothing. Contrary to that, if they see that by the end of the year there is a chance for 15K family vis wastage, they may allocate that to employment category.
To all EB2 folks out there: No need to really feel bad or happy about the analysis of Mr. MPADAPA.
My general advice to anyone who put forward an argument for propaganda and a campaign is: Don't massage the facts, don't twist the facts, don't over analyze, don't under analyze, Also don't say that your interpretation is the final verdict. Because, even if we can analyze all the immigration related laws in the whole Federal register, we may not be able to come to a final conclusion....!! Why? Because you don't have a clue what is in the field manual and internal memos of the USCIS and you don't know how they procedurely allocate spill over etc on each year. As long as USCIS and DOS can use the terms "In Anticipation..", "As per our expectations..", no one will be able to hold them accountable for the visa wastage.
MPADAPA..you may continue your argument/discussions, if you think this is a moot point. But I don't believe so.
If you can prove your initial basic argument with complete facts and details, I will openly declare, I am wrong! Your original argument was "Since the family category used up all Visa numbers in 2008, in 2009 EB2 cannot expect any spill over from Family category and hence we need to expect slow movement....".
Instead of proving the above, you may cherry pick my statements and continue to beat about the bush. I am giving up here my friend.
Good luck :)
realizeit, you just didn't get the unused visa calculation.
By the way your interpretation quoted below is exactly what numbersUSA used to claim that there is no visa available for recapture. And they used that argument to shoot down our recapture bill.
Knowing that PD's aren't going to move forward drastically, we need to start working towards some thing drastic like a bill/amendment. Or we can sit and mull over it and wait until the second week of Aug (when Sep bulletin is announced) to show our frustration.
My complete earlier reply
Still I disagree my friend. I know, law is the law! What I am disagreeing is your interpretation and conclusion.
In reality, towards the end of the Fiscal year, if USCIS/State Dept finds that visas will go unused in one category, they can use the spill over rules. So, if there are some potential unused visas in Family category they can add it to Employment category and vice versa. This will all work in the same year. It will not work or get transferred to a following year. In your initial argument, you said, because all the family visas for 2008 are completely used, we won't get anything from that category as spill over during this year (2009).
If your argument is correct, there won't be any need for recapture laws that we all are working for. If the unused can be given to the next year, no visa will get wasted. USCIS/DOS can just give the unused in family category to Employment category in the following year and vice versa.
In reality that is not the case. Visa number in one year will not flow to the next. So, your original argument is completely wrong. If there is nothing left in family category for the year 2008, that has nothing to do with the expected spill over to Employment category from family category in 2009.
In my opinion, law is complex and snippets of the law from here and there won't will not clarify anything. So, if anyone would like to be optimistic, stay there, to be pessimistic, stay there - this whole argument by MPADAPA is not enough to change your state of mind :) Just my observation!
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looivy
07-13 05:57 PM
It for illegal folks.
The Senate is currently considering the FY 2008 Department of Defense Authorization (H.R. 1585). Senators Specter and Leahy have offered the Habeas Corpus Restoration Act as an amendment to the bill; and Senators Durbin, Hagel, and Lugar are planning to offer the DREAM Act as an amendment. Call your senators now and urge them to vote YES on these amendments!
The Senate is currently considering the FY 2008 Department of Defense Authorization (H.R. 1585). Senators Specter and Leahy have offered the Habeas Corpus Restoration Act as an amendment to the bill; and Senators Durbin, Hagel, and Lugar are planning to offer the DREAM Act as an amendment. Call your senators now and urge them to vote YES on these amendments!
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buvane
08-05 09:50 PM
My case
PD:May, 7, 2004
RD:July. 02, 2007
ND:Aug 28,2007
I140 Approval: August 8, 2006,
Status: Pending ::mad:
Service Center: NSC
PD:May, 7, 2004
RD:July. 02, 2007
ND:Aug 28,2007
I140 Approval: August 8, 2006,
Status: Pending ::mad:
Service Center: NSC
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swede
08-31 10:10 PM
This is your only chance. There is no more rally later.
If you want to wait 10+ years for your green card, stay at home and hide. (Retrogression will just get worse, I guarantee). If you want to change your future and get a GC one day please show up at the rally. We are there to show that we even exist, no need to do anything else. We need everyone.
No one cares about people who doesn't exist.
If you want to wait 10+ years for your green card, stay at home and hide. (Retrogression will just get worse, I guarantee). If you want to change your future and get a GC one day please show up at the rally. We are there to show that we even exist, no need to do anything else. We need everyone.
No one cares about people who doesn't exist.
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ronhira
07-08 07:43 PM
good one Ron Hira..this guy for sure is an odd ball leaching around here trying to create a controversy...
eb3retro, i think u & i need not as much worry about oscarzumaran et al..... as we should worry about those who remain silent..... day after day....
eb3retro, i think u & i need not as much worry about oscarzumaran et al..... as we should worry about those who remain silent..... day after day....
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lnahan
06-05 01:55 PM
Action item: let's beg USCIS to work slower and waste as much quota as possible.
Ron,
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E. EMPLOYMENT THIRD PREFERENCE VISA AVAILABILITY
Demand for numbers, primarily by Citizenship and Immigration Services Offices for adjustment of status cases, is expected to bring the Employment Third preference category very close to the annual numerical limit in June. As a result, this category is likely to experience retrogressions or visa unavailability beginning in July. Such action would only be temporary, however, and a complete recovery of the cut-off dates would occur for October, the first month of the new fiscal year.
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How do you see above message in the June Visa Bulletin? This means it is illegal to use all of them with in 3 quarters????
I don't wish to sound like Bill Clinton, but it depends on how you define "is." In this case, if they are using "annual limit" to mean the entire annual quota, then they are admitting that they have broken the law and issued too many visas in the first three quarters. Worse, they offer no explanation for having broken the law.[/COLOR]
Well, they could be talking about a subset of the annual quota, such as the quarterly quota. From the context, I don't think that is the case, but I'm also not used to seeing the State Department flat out admit illegality, either.
Well, if they do broke the law, can we do something about it? Like class action law suite???
Let's see if they did, first.
Ron,
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E. EMPLOYMENT THIRD PREFERENCE VISA AVAILABILITY
Demand for numbers, primarily by Citizenship and Immigration Services Offices for adjustment of status cases, is expected to bring the Employment Third preference category very close to the annual numerical limit in June. As a result, this category is likely to experience retrogressions or visa unavailability beginning in July. Such action would only be temporary, however, and a complete recovery of the cut-off dates would occur for October, the first month of the new fiscal year.
"
How do you see above message in the June Visa Bulletin? This means it is illegal to use all of them with in 3 quarters????
I don't wish to sound like Bill Clinton, but it depends on how you define "is." In this case, if they are using "annual limit" to mean the entire annual quota, then they are admitting that they have broken the law and issued too many visas in the first three quarters. Worse, they offer no explanation for having broken the law.[/COLOR]
Well, they could be talking about a subset of the annual quota, such as the quarterly quota. From the context, I don't think that is the case, but I'm also not used to seeing the State Department flat out admit illegality, either.
Well, if they do broke the law, can we do something about it? Like class action law suite???
Let's see if they did, first.
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FinalGC
05-15 10:51 AM
I believe Mbhai did a dis-service by negating good advice. What is the guarantee that the 2nd women that this guy marries will not ask for divorce? The best thing he can do is find a way to reconcile, unless there is marital infidility.
I believe "snathan" story was inspiring and addressed the true problem of that individual and every indivudual's life. Trust me, when you all get your GC's ...it will be these things that will matter to all of you, rather than anything else.
hmm, i think munnabhai did the right thing.
sometimes people give irrelevant advice. one guy asks im getting divorced, what shud i do with respect to 485? if people tell him, stop worrying bout 485, focus on ur life and fix ur marraige, then its not helping him from a "forum" perspective.
thanks
I believe "snathan" story was inspiring and addressed the true problem of that individual and every indivudual's life. Trust me, when you all get your GC's ...it will be these things that will matter to all of you, rather than anything else.
hmm, i think munnabhai did the right thing.
sometimes people give irrelevant advice. one guy asks im getting divorced, what shud i do with respect to 485? if people tell him, stop worrying bout 485, focus on ur life and fix ur marraige, then its not helping him from a "forum" perspective.
thanks
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anilsal
08-31 09:04 PM
who is affected by retrogression, wakes up and participates, we can probably get 50K plus.
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12-13 03:53 PM
5. This employer is a consulting company...(desi) & they asked me to sign a financial agreement to repay their expenses on labor substitution/I-140/I-485...if I will leave them early. ...Is it legal to ask for such kind of agreement...?
Please let me know as much as info/ guidance you can provide to me.
Great thanks in advance for all of your help.
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I work in a company that has got a decent name in the field I am working in. They recently have introduced a rule stating that I have to stay with the company for a year after GC before I can decide to leave for another company. Otherwise, I'll have to pay back the expenses incurred in the GC process.
I, however, would ask around and talk to someone working in this company u are about to join.
If this works.... you are definitely lucky!!
Please let me know as much as info/ guidance you can provide to me.
Great thanks in advance for all of your help.
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I work in a company that has got a decent name in the field I am working in. They recently have introduced a rule stating that I have to stay with the company for a year after GC before I can decide to leave for another company. Otherwise, I'll have to pay back the expenses incurred in the GC process.
I, however, would ask around and talk to someone working in this company u are about to join.
If this works.... you are definitely lucky!!
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h88
02-05 04:31 PM
Originally posted by senocular
wow Im surprised 42 votes managed to get up there. How many total votes do you usually get for these kinds of things? all those crazy mystery people out there... wheeeeee
Even more sometimes:
http://www.kirupaforum.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=11090
wow Im surprised 42 votes managed to get up there. How many total votes do you usually get for these kinds of things? all those crazy mystery people out there... wheeeeee
Even more sometimes:
http://www.kirupaforum.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=11090
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aroranuj
04-19 12:36 PM
Hello All,
Thanks for your thoughts & advise. It helped me in my conversation with my company's attorney. I would first like to clear my educational background. I have 10 + 2( HSC/ 12th Grade) + 1 (1st year of Bachelors of Commerce) + 3 year Diploma in my field. That being said this is what she has advised/recommended.
She states that she is fairly confident that we can argue successfully the denial. She has said that she will file an MTR/Appeal & at the same time file a new I-140 too. She says she thinks there is a 50% chance that the MTR would be successful, if not she said it will go for appeal & take about a year. The advantage she said of filing a new I-140 at the same time is that she can make an airtight case with the cover letter covering the points for the reason for the denial of this I140 & the decision on the new I-140 would be fairly quick if the appeal is denied as it was filed witht eh appeal for the old one. The only disadvantage with a new I-140 would be that we cant file for 485 till there is an open visa, which means no EAD/AP for myself & my wife.
Can members with knowledge of these kind of scenarios shed some of their thoughts?
Thanks.
Hello All,
I have just received a copy of the denial notice that USCIS sent to the attorney for my I-140. This is what the notice states is the reason for the denial. Can someone please advise me what my chances are for an appeal to be approved? My lawyer is noncommittal at this this time. My I140 was filed under the EB3 Category. My 6th year of H1B expires in June.
"A Bachelor's degree is generallt found to require 4 years of education. Therefore, the beneficiary's 3 year diploma is not equivalent to a 4 year bachelors degree which is the minimum educational requirement to be classified as a professional on this labor certificate.
Under part H Number 4 of the Labor Certificate, the petitoner has checked the box "Other" under education. Under part 4-A the petitioner stated: 'Will accept academic studies evaluated as equivalent of US Bachelors'. The evaluation submitted indiactes that the beneficiary has the foreign equivalent of a US Bachelor of Science.
However this statement cannot infer that the petitioner will accept anything less than the minimum education requirements for a professional, i.e Bachelors degree. The evidence indicates that the beneficiary does not have a bachelors degree or foreign equivalent degree. Therefore, the beneficiary does not meet the minimum requirements of the ETA-9089"
Please note that I have a 3 year diploma & 1 year towards Bachelors in business & this case was files at the Texas Center. Any insights from knowledgeable members will be helpful.
Thanks for your thoughts & advise. It helped me in my conversation with my company's attorney. I would first like to clear my educational background. I have 10 + 2( HSC/ 12th Grade) + 1 (1st year of Bachelors of Commerce) + 3 year Diploma in my field. That being said this is what she has advised/recommended.
She states that she is fairly confident that we can argue successfully the denial. She has said that she will file an MTR/Appeal & at the same time file a new I-140 too. She says she thinks there is a 50% chance that the MTR would be successful, if not she said it will go for appeal & take about a year. The advantage she said of filing a new I-140 at the same time is that she can make an airtight case with the cover letter covering the points for the reason for the denial of this I140 & the decision on the new I-140 would be fairly quick if the appeal is denied as it was filed witht eh appeal for the old one. The only disadvantage with a new I-140 would be that we cant file for 485 till there is an open visa, which means no EAD/AP for myself & my wife.
Can members with knowledge of these kind of scenarios shed some of their thoughts?
Thanks.
Hello All,
I have just received a copy of the denial notice that USCIS sent to the attorney for my I-140. This is what the notice states is the reason for the denial. Can someone please advise me what my chances are for an appeal to be approved? My lawyer is noncommittal at this this time. My I140 was filed under the EB3 Category. My 6th year of H1B expires in June.
"A Bachelor's degree is generallt found to require 4 years of education. Therefore, the beneficiary's 3 year diploma is not equivalent to a 4 year bachelors degree which is the minimum educational requirement to be classified as a professional on this labor certificate.
Under part H Number 4 of the Labor Certificate, the petitoner has checked the box "Other" under education. Under part 4-A the petitioner stated: 'Will accept academic studies evaluated as equivalent of US Bachelors'. The evaluation submitted indiactes that the beneficiary has the foreign equivalent of a US Bachelor of Science.
However this statement cannot infer that the petitioner will accept anything less than the minimum education requirements for a professional, i.e Bachelors degree. The evidence indicates that the beneficiary does not have a bachelors degree or foreign equivalent degree. Therefore, the beneficiary does not meet the minimum requirements of the ETA-9089"
Please note that I have a 3 year diploma & 1 year towards Bachelors in business & this case was files at the Texas Center. Any insights from knowledgeable members will be helpful.
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sheela
02-21 11:26 AM
Thanks Sheela. Was that visit to home, a part of your employer audit as well as it was mentioned by bujjigadu123 or something else?
Not sure whether you got a chance to ask the officer about the reason for this visit? Was it a part of random check or any investigation on fund transfers or any other program etc?
Now, I think it is a random check and nothing like 'employer audit'. I never asked him -at that time I thought it was a part of background check.
I believe they are always doing these checks probability could be 1/100,000 although i have no idea at the frequency.
Not sure whether you got a chance to ask the officer about the reason for this visit? Was it a part of random check or any investigation on fund transfers or any other program etc?
Now, I think it is a random check and nothing like 'employer audit'. I never asked him -at that time I thought it was a part of background check.
I believe they are always doing these checks probability could be 1/100,000 although i have no idea at the frequency.
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webm
05-08 02:45 PM
To all the sufferers, please pursue your case with vigor at every opportunity.
I am glad to see the light at the end of the tunnel. I saw a welcome e-mail from USCIS today in the morning. Took 6 years to get the GC with a total stay of 10 years.
Congrats!! pal..
I am glad to see the light at the end of the tunnel. I saw a welcome e-mail from USCIS today in the morning. Took 6 years to get the GC with a total stay of 10 years.
Congrats!! pal..
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imh1b
04-29 12:59 PM
Quick Chain of events .
India rejected both Boeing and Lockheed Martin's proposal of fighters . I am not debating the reasons or the merits of this decision if this was right or wrong . I am just discussing the potential repercussions this has had so far and might have .
'Exclusion of US firms from IAF jet deal a setback for ties' (http://www.indianexpress.com/news/exclusion-of-us-firms-from-iaf-jet-deal-a-setback.../783401/)
1) The issue is so serious that Tim Roemer , US Ambassador to India submitted his resignation immediately since he was on the hook for making this deal work .This shows the measure of disappointment they had.
2) India was seeking US assurances in security a Permanent Security council seat , which looks far fetched now .
4) Pentagon , Whitehouse and the DoD very upset that deal fell through . This sentiment will certainly percolate to the USCIS and the State department and might embolden Anti Immigration senators whose measures will get more support in the house and senate.
5) Prosecution of companies entangled in cases like Infosys might find more support and favor with the Govt.
Question is how/if there will be a backlash against India / Indian's get back at us at least in the short term .Increased scrutiny and visa denials , PoE Harassment , GC audits etc.
Will the US take a Tit-for-Tat reaction on this issue is what remains to be seen.
You guys only see your greencard hidden in every news story. At least you did not write now people will get more soft LUD because this deal fell through.
The US India relationship will now get better.
For once some Indian politician thought sensibily about India's interest.
Read this news UPDATE 1-US to supply Pakistan with 85 mini-drones | Reuters (http://www.reuters.com/article/2011/04/21/usa-pakistan-drones-idUSLDE73K1TB20110421)
India rejected both Boeing and Lockheed Martin's proposal of fighters . I am not debating the reasons or the merits of this decision if this was right or wrong . I am just discussing the potential repercussions this has had so far and might have .
'Exclusion of US firms from IAF jet deal a setback for ties' (http://www.indianexpress.com/news/exclusion-of-us-firms-from-iaf-jet-deal-a-setback.../783401/)
1) The issue is so serious that Tim Roemer , US Ambassador to India submitted his resignation immediately since he was on the hook for making this deal work .This shows the measure of disappointment they had.
2) India was seeking US assurances in security a Permanent Security council seat , which looks far fetched now .
4) Pentagon , Whitehouse and the DoD very upset that deal fell through . This sentiment will certainly percolate to the USCIS and the State department and might embolden Anti Immigration senators whose measures will get more support in the house and senate.
5) Prosecution of companies entangled in cases like Infosys might find more support and favor with the Govt.
Question is how/if there will be a backlash against India / Indian's get back at us at least in the short term .Increased scrutiny and visa denials , PoE Harassment , GC audits etc.
Will the US take a Tit-for-Tat reaction on this issue is what remains to be seen.
You guys only see your greencard hidden in every news story. At least you did not write now people will get more soft LUD because this deal fell through.
The US India relationship will now get better.
For once some Indian politician thought sensibily about India's interest.
Read this news UPDATE 1-US to supply Pakistan with 85 mini-drones | Reuters (http://www.reuters.com/article/2011/04/21/usa-pakistan-drones-idUSLDE73K1TB20110421)
americandesi
10-11 05:56 PM
One important issue is over looked here. Small employers will have a tough time in proving I-140 "ability to pay" for employees with older PD�s, whose labor got cleared after Aug 17 from BEC. Cuz the company has to prove its "ability to pay" the proffered wage starting from the date PD is established continuing until the adjudication of I-140.
Suppose the PD for an employee is Oct 2001 and the proffered wage is 80K per annum, then the company should prove that its assets, net income or salary payments were >=80K starting from Oct2001 continuing until the adjudication of I-140.
This is indeed an acid test for small employers.
Suppose the PD for an employee is Oct 2001 and the proffered wage is 80K per annum, then the company should prove that its assets, net income or salary payments were >=80K starting from Oct2001 continuing until the adjudication of I-140.
This is indeed an acid test for small employers.
PHANI_TAVVALA
04-29 01:52 PM
Typhoon costs about $135M a piece
Eurofighter Typhoon - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eurofighter#Costs)
Rafael costs close to $100M.
India definitely needs a F-22 like aircraft considering the Indian AGNI-3 is still not operational and there is no proper long-range nuclear weapon delivery medium. Sukhoi's and Mirage's are no F-22's.
Eurofighter Typhoon - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eurofighter#Costs)
Rafael costs close to $100M.
India definitely needs a F-22 like aircraft considering the Indian AGNI-3 is still not operational and there is no proper long-range nuclear weapon delivery medium. Sukhoi's and Mirage's are no F-22's.
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