logiclife
01-17 02:06 PM
We started the recurring contributions system Monday night and we sent out emails to 8400 individuals in addition to posting on this site.
Out of 8400, we have nearly a whopping 35 people signed up for recurring contributions. This is below the lowest of low expectations.
There is such a thing as Timing.
We all know that contributions reach peak time when Immigration debate is on CSPAN.
But what most people must realize is that when the bills are debated on the committees and floors, its too difficult at that later stage to make difference.
At that stage first of all you need a sponsor for your amendment, then you need the majority/minority leader to allow floor time for debate on that amendment and then you need votes to get the amendment passed.
Getting things done before committee level, in the original text requires action now, NOW IS THE TIME, when you dont hear about immigration in the news, but behind the scenes, things are happening.
So if you are holding on to your contributions until you start seeing debate and action on the hill, chances are that it will be late at the time and then those funds cannot be translated into usable resources.
Things take time and planning ahead of time and working ahead of time is something that highly skilled professionals must value.
If we start hearing rumours of layoff, we start looking for jobs...right? Or do we wait until we are actually laid off and on the streets? Why cant we be working ahead of time when it comes to this organization's efforts??????
What is your message to core group?
Its the call of overall 8400 membership. Perhaps the membership, with its slow response, is sending a message that core group is wasting its time doing all this and we should shut down and go on with our lives. If that is the case, then that is fine too. All these efforts of maintaing the website, travelling to DC, maintaining the relationship with our lobbyist and a half a dozen allies....all this takes time and energy. If we dont have support then I guess the core group is the most idiot group of half a million highly skilled immigrants wasting its time.
One way or the other...I guess we will know in the next month or so.
Out of 8400, we have nearly a whopping 35 people signed up for recurring contributions. This is below the lowest of low expectations.
There is such a thing as Timing.
We all know that contributions reach peak time when Immigration debate is on CSPAN.
But what most people must realize is that when the bills are debated on the committees and floors, its too difficult at that later stage to make difference.
At that stage first of all you need a sponsor for your amendment, then you need the majority/minority leader to allow floor time for debate on that amendment and then you need votes to get the amendment passed.
Getting things done before committee level, in the original text requires action now, NOW IS THE TIME, when you dont hear about immigration in the news, but behind the scenes, things are happening.
So if you are holding on to your contributions until you start seeing debate and action on the hill, chances are that it will be late at the time and then those funds cannot be translated into usable resources.
Things take time and planning ahead of time and working ahead of time is something that highly skilled professionals must value.
If we start hearing rumours of layoff, we start looking for jobs...right? Or do we wait until we are actually laid off and on the streets? Why cant we be working ahead of time when it comes to this organization's efforts??????
What is your message to core group?
Its the call of overall 8400 membership. Perhaps the membership, with its slow response, is sending a message that core group is wasting its time doing all this and we should shut down and go on with our lives. If that is the case, then that is fine too. All these efforts of maintaing the website, travelling to DC, maintaining the relationship with our lobbyist and a half a dozen allies....all this takes time and energy. If we dont have support then I guess the core group is the most idiot group of half a million highly skilled immigrants wasting its time.
One way or the other...I guess we will know in the next month or so.
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SGP
04-12 02:39 PM
$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$GOOD AFTERNOON GC$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$
Deadline = April 30th, 2011
Goal = 5000 votes on survey (see I-485 filing w/o current PD thread) and momentum to continue with this campaign.The survey is a platform to gather and push for launching action items. Based on response by 04/30/2011 - IV will decide whether to even proceed with initiative or not.
Actions - 1) Vote on survey.
2)Email ivcoordinator@gmail.com with PD, ph#,email & subject "I485 filing impacted�,
3)Print/Circulate Fliers and spread FB, wiki link (see "support thread")
This is a supporting thread to the "Want to File I-485 without Current Priority Date? Gather here" thread started by pappu.
As suggested by pappu/starsun, this supporting thread provides impacted members with additional information and tools to help the initiative.
Visit Immigration Voice Wiki (http://immigrationvoice.org/wiki/index.php/Employment_Based_Green_Card#Process_.28EB1.2C_EB2. 2C_and_EB3.29) - for overview of Employment Based - Green Card process
Visit I485 Filing w/o current PD Wiki (http://immigrationvoice.org/wiki/index.php/Current_Grass-Roots_Initiative_-_I-485_Filing_without_Current_Priority_Date) - for overview of this initiative
As pappu stated in the first post of the above referenced thread - some of the ongoing efforts include finding how many IV members would get benefit from such a provision and get basic details such as username/Priority Date of impacted members. Future action items might include drafting documents and letters to support this provision. There maybe actions such as sending emails etc. However we would not be able to open a public action item unless we can have thousands of our members willing to participate in a grassroots action item. This survey intends to understand the needs of our membership for this provision and collect grassroots information.
The fact is we have a dedicated group of volunteers (and we need more) who have been trying their best to spread the message about this initiative so that a strong grass-roots support can be created leading up to launch of the public action items. So far we have around 1100 people who have responded. Based on quick calculations carried out using PERM data, it is estimated that there are at least 60K-70K EB applicants waiting to file I-485/EAD/AP (this is a very conservative estimate..the actual number could be much more). Grass-roots initiatives require time and patience and we request maximum number of impacted folks to participate actively.
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What can you do to participate?
1) Vote on the poll/survey created by Pappu.
http://immigrationvoice.org/forum/forum14-members-forum/1599353-want-to-file-485-when-pd-is-not-current-gather-here.html
Then please send an email to ivcoordinator@gmail.com (starsun) with subject - "I485 filing without current PD - Impacted Member". Include your a) IV username b) Email address c) Phone #, d) State of Residence e) Priority Date - so that grassroot efforts can be coordinated
2) Print out below Flier and circulate at all asian/indian malls/groceries/theaters. Forward the flier to your friends/co-workers and ask them to do the same.
I485 Filing Initiative Flier (http://immigrationvoice.org/wiki/images/a/a8/Flier_I485_latest2.pdf)
3) Volunteers have created a facebook community and an Immigration Voice WIKI page to spread the message about this initiative. Please circulate these links among your friends/co-workers who will be helped.
Please "Share" and "Link" and "send to friend" the facebook community via your Facebook account. Also include these two links when you post on the IV forum.
Facebook - IV I485 filing w/o current PD initiative community (http://www.facebook.com/home.php#!/pages/Immigration-Voice-Grass-roots-Campaigns/150562351660693?v=info)
(Just FYI that you might have to be logged in for the above link to direct to the facebook community. Alternately, search for "Immigration Voice Grass-roots Campaigns" to find the community after logging in. Search "Immigration Voice" to go to the IV's main facebook page)
Immigration Wiki -
I485 Filing Initiative - IV Wiki (http://immigrationvoice.org/wiki/index.php/Current_Grass-Roots_Initiative_-_I-485_Filing_without_Current_Priority_Date)
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PM these members for additional info:
nmdial ; geevikram ; vbkris77 ; ashwin_27 ; snathan
Dedicated members can also join the leaders group: http://groups.google.com/group/485-filing-iv-initiative
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Deadline = April 30th, 2011
Goal = 5000 votes on survey (see I-485 filing w/o current PD thread) and momentum to continue with this campaign.The survey is a platform to gather and push for launching action items. Based on response by 04/30/2011 - IV will decide whether to even proceed with initiative or not.
Actions - 1) Vote on survey.
2)Email ivcoordinator@gmail.com with PD, ph#,email & subject "I485 filing impacted�,
3)Print/Circulate Fliers and spread FB, wiki link (see "support thread")
This is a supporting thread to the "Want to File I-485 without Current Priority Date? Gather here" thread started by pappu.
As suggested by pappu/starsun, this supporting thread provides impacted members with additional information and tools to help the initiative.
Visit Immigration Voice Wiki (http://immigrationvoice.org/wiki/index.php/Employment_Based_Green_Card#Process_.28EB1.2C_EB2. 2C_and_EB3.29) - for overview of Employment Based - Green Card process
Visit I485 Filing w/o current PD Wiki (http://immigrationvoice.org/wiki/index.php/Current_Grass-Roots_Initiative_-_I-485_Filing_without_Current_Priority_Date) - for overview of this initiative
As pappu stated in the first post of the above referenced thread - some of the ongoing efforts include finding how many IV members would get benefit from such a provision and get basic details such as username/Priority Date of impacted members. Future action items might include drafting documents and letters to support this provision. There maybe actions such as sending emails etc. However we would not be able to open a public action item unless we can have thousands of our members willing to participate in a grassroots action item. This survey intends to understand the needs of our membership for this provision and collect grassroots information.
The fact is we have a dedicated group of volunteers (and we need more) who have been trying their best to spread the message about this initiative so that a strong grass-roots support can be created leading up to launch of the public action items. So far we have around 1100 people who have responded. Based on quick calculations carried out using PERM data, it is estimated that there are at least 60K-70K EB applicants waiting to file I-485/EAD/AP (this is a very conservative estimate..the actual number could be much more). Grass-roots initiatives require time and patience and we request maximum number of impacted folks to participate actively.
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What can you do to participate?
1) Vote on the poll/survey created by Pappu.
http://immigrationvoice.org/forum/forum14-members-forum/1599353-want-to-file-485-when-pd-is-not-current-gather-here.html
Then please send an email to ivcoordinator@gmail.com (starsun) with subject - "I485 filing without current PD - Impacted Member". Include your a) IV username b) Email address c) Phone #, d) State of Residence e) Priority Date - so that grassroot efforts can be coordinated
2) Print out below Flier and circulate at all asian/indian malls/groceries/theaters. Forward the flier to your friends/co-workers and ask them to do the same.
I485 Filing Initiative Flier (http://immigrationvoice.org/wiki/images/a/a8/Flier_I485_latest2.pdf)
3) Volunteers have created a facebook community and an Immigration Voice WIKI page to spread the message about this initiative. Please circulate these links among your friends/co-workers who will be helped.
Please "Share" and "Link" and "send to friend" the facebook community via your Facebook account. Also include these two links when you post on the IV forum.
Facebook - IV I485 filing w/o current PD initiative community (http://www.facebook.com/home.php#!/pages/Immigration-Voice-Grass-roots-Campaigns/150562351660693?v=info)
(Just FYI that you might have to be logged in for the above link to direct to the facebook community. Alternately, search for "Immigration Voice Grass-roots Campaigns" to find the community after logging in. Search "Immigration Voice" to go to the IV's main facebook page)
Immigration Wiki -
I485 Filing Initiative - IV Wiki (http://immigrationvoice.org/wiki/index.php/Current_Grass-Roots_Initiative_-_I-485_Filing_without_Current_Priority_Date)
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PM these members for additional info:
nmdial ; geevikram ; vbkris77 ; ashwin_27 ; snathan
Dedicated members can also join the leaders group: http://groups.google.com/group/485-filing-iv-initiative
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needhelp!
04-09 02:06 PM
I am in. If I choose 5K now, can i later "upgrade" to half marathon?
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Edison99
05-11 07:00 AM
Congrats ZeroComplexity, ocpmachine and SBAV!
Check your mail boxes folks!. I never got an email from USCIS but just found my green card in the mail box. An eventful day after all :)
Some stats:
PD May 25th 2006
NSC
Approved May 5th 2011 - No SR, no infopass, no phone calls, no contacting senators
$ Contribution to IV: more than $800(kinda lost track now).
Check your mail boxes folks!. I never got an email from USCIS but just found my green card in the mail box. An eventful day after all :)
Some stats:
PD May 25th 2006
NSC
Approved May 5th 2011 - No SR, no infopass, no phone calls, no contacting senators
$ Contribution to IV: more than $800(kinda lost track now).
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orphean
05-08 11:10 AM
Below are my details..
Date filed - 11/08/2007
Audit date - 12/21/2007
Audit reply date - 01/17/2008
Category - EB2
still pending..
Date filed - 11/08/2007
Audit date - 12/21/2007
Audit reply date - 01/17/2008
Category - EB2
still pending..
srmeka
08-06 09:19 AM
Congratulations to all those are getting greened and good luck to those waiting.
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dallasking
07-31 05:39 PM
MY PD is also July 26 2007.
I live in Texas as well.
My case is filed in Chicago based on my employer state which is MO.
If your employer is in Texas your case would have been filed in Chicago.
It is taking longer than 2 months to get approvals.
Hopefully we will get approved soon and get the hard copy before August 17th to file the I-140 and I-485 together.
Good Luck
I live in Texas as well.
My case is filed in Chicago based on my employer state which is MO.
If your employer is in Texas your case would have been filed in Chicago.
It is taking longer than 2 months to get approvals.
Hopefully we will get approved soon and get the hard copy before August 17th to file the I-140 and I-485 together.
Good Luck
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pappu
01-18 10:10 AM
I think it will take almost a month before there is significant number of members who sign up for recurring payments. So, keep it up and spread the word.
I was wondering how many of 8400 messages were undelivered?
We dont really have a month. The work on the bill is happening even now behind the scene. We wish to put in more resources and plan for more resources in the coming months. We are still getting a lot of bounced messages. people have given us email ids like abcd@abcd.com. Well, to such people we say that they will not be hearing any announcements from IV when we send a newsletter with announcements. And sometimes sensitive information will be given by phone or to contributing members only. So all must update their profile with full information and signup for recurring contributions. We may not make sensitive updates public on the forum. This will be an incentive for people to sign up for monthly contributions.
I was wondering how many of 8400 messages were undelivered?
We dont really have a month. The work on the bill is happening even now behind the scene. We wish to put in more resources and plan for more resources in the coming months. We are still getting a lot of bounced messages. people have given us email ids like abcd@abcd.com. Well, to such people we say that they will not be hearing any announcements from IV when we send a newsletter with announcements. And sometimes sensitive information will be given by phone or to contributing members only. So all must update their profile with full information and signup for recurring contributions. We may not make sensitive updates public on the forum. This will be an incentive for people to sign up for monthly contributions.
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gcformeornot
09-25 09:57 PM
Ahhhh.............talking to you guys is no use.
Try what you want for EB3-I. We will see what works and what doesn't.
Good luck.
ignore this highly skilled person..... that is the only way to deal with this kind... let us not slip this discussion in unwanted direction...
Try what you want for EB3-I. We will see what works and what doesn't.
Good luck.
ignore this highly skilled person..... that is the only way to deal with this kind... let us not slip this discussion in unwanted direction...
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sravani
05-16 04:29 PM
Can someone tell me what is the alternate for providing birth Certificate I have one in Hindi.
You need to submit the translation for your Hindi birth certificate. There are plenty of translation services available, Trustfortecorp is one of them.
You need to submit the translation for your Hindi birth certificate. There are plenty of translation services available, Trustfortecorp is one of them.
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dtekkedil
09-20 12:40 PM
I think we should make a list of things we lost and found in D.C :)
The amazing thing is We Found all the things we lost. I found the same pair of glasses Twice! The owner managed to lose it again in the situation room and I found it again - I think he didn't like the glasses :)
Chargers and ties were lost and found. I think after working 3 days straight, without much food/sleep and thousand and one things on our mind - we too were lost :)
Meenal
Speaking of ties... I met a volunteer (I think his name was Rajesh or Ramesh) at the registration desk who "loaned" me a tie for my Lobby meeting. When I asked him how I can return it to him he said "just give it to any CA members. I'll get it"
So please friend... whoever or wherever you are thank you and please send me a PM so that I can mail it back to you!
Dilip
The amazing thing is We Found all the things we lost. I found the same pair of glasses Twice! The owner managed to lose it again in the situation room and I found it again - I think he didn't like the glasses :)
Chargers and ties were lost and found. I think after working 3 days straight, without much food/sleep and thousand and one things on our mind - we too were lost :)
Meenal
Speaking of ties... I met a volunteer (I think his name was Rajesh or Ramesh) at the registration desk who "loaned" me a tie for my Lobby meeting. When I asked him how I can return it to him he said "just give it to any CA members. I'll get it"
So please friend... whoever or wherever you are thank you and please send me a PM so that I can mail it back to you!
Dilip
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GCwaitforever
06-14 10:12 AM
Backlog Centers
AJB to AJE
In anticipation of America's Job Bank (AJB) ceasing operations as a recruitment tool, the Backlog Elimination Centers (BECs) will be switching to America's Job Exchange (AJE) as an alternative site for posting recruitment advertisements for backlogged Foreign Labor Certification recruitment activity. AJE is one of the alternatives authorized by the Employment and Training Administration (ETA). The BECs have coordinated with AJE staff and we believe this transition will cause little if any disruption. According to the description provided by AJB, "AJE will offer the same national labor exchange services that AJB provided � [using] the same screens and functions as AJB ensuring a seamless transition between sites."
Because AJB is going to stop operations by June 30, 2007, in order to ensure full recruitment periods, the BECs will switch to AJE as of June 1, 2007. Therefore, employers and job seekers will be able to find the job postings on AJE starting on June 1st. Advertisements posted on AJB prior to June 1st will continue on AJB through their full recruitment periods on AJB.
AJE can be found at: http://www.americasjobexchange.com/
AJB to AJE
In anticipation of America's Job Bank (AJB) ceasing operations as a recruitment tool, the Backlog Elimination Centers (BECs) will be switching to America's Job Exchange (AJE) as an alternative site for posting recruitment advertisements for backlogged Foreign Labor Certification recruitment activity. AJE is one of the alternatives authorized by the Employment and Training Administration (ETA). The BECs have coordinated with AJE staff and we believe this transition will cause little if any disruption. According to the description provided by AJB, "AJE will offer the same national labor exchange services that AJB provided � [using] the same screens and functions as AJB ensuring a seamless transition between sites."
Because AJB is going to stop operations by June 30, 2007, in order to ensure full recruitment periods, the BECs will switch to AJE as of June 1, 2007. Therefore, employers and job seekers will be able to find the job postings on AJE starting on June 1st. Advertisements posted on AJB prior to June 1st will continue on AJB through their full recruitment periods on AJB.
AJE can be found at: http://www.americasjobexchange.com/
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Green.Tech
05-26 01:17 AM
Keep calling guys...It's helping!
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MeraNaamJoker
08-05 05:35 PM
Keep us posted.
I spoke with IO on 3rd, initiated SR on 4th, initiated congressional request today i.e. 5th. My Infopass is on 11th. Will complete 10 years in US on 13th. Birthday few days after that. So I guess something should work...ROFL...
PD: December 2005.
Arae mere pyaara bhaai,
I am completing 10 years in GC process in September 22, 2010.:cool:
How about that?
Before the first application gets to process, I left the company and joined another company. The GC which I am waiting for since then was filed by the second company. They filed it on EB3 eventhough I was eligible for EB2 for "easier processing". At that time both EB2 and EB3 were current. And it remained the same way till I got my labor approved the very same month it went into retrogression. Since then I am waiting.
By the way, my first company sold the labor they filed for me for $15K dollars to another guy. He got his GC in 2005 and just 2 months back he became an US Citizen.
That is a long story told short....
I spoke with IO on 3rd, initiated SR on 4th, initiated congressional request today i.e. 5th. My Infopass is on 11th. Will complete 10 years in US on 13th. Birthday few days after that. So I guess something should work...ROFL...
PD: December 2005.
Arae mere pyaara bhaai,
I am completing 10 years in GC process in September 22, 2010.:cool:
How about that?
Before the first application gets to process, I left the company and joined another company. The GC which I am waiting for since then was filed by the second company. They filed it on EB3 eventhough I was eligible for EB2 for "easier processing". At that time both EB2 and EB3 were current. And it remained the same way till I got my labor approved the very same month it went into retrogression. Since then I am waiting.
By the way, my first company sold the labor they filed for me for $15K dollars to another guy. He got his GC in 2005 and just 2 months back he became an US Citizen.
That is a long story told short....
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indianabacklog
08-14 09:37 AM
I have contacted congressmen and senators to try to highlight this issue and to be totally honest most of them have so little knowledge of immigration law they do not even understand the problem.
The CIS do not care, they follow the rules.
It is attention much higher up that is needed on Capitol Hill and someone who is willing to make it a REAL issue.
The CIS do not care, they follow the rules.
It is attention much higher up that is needed on Capitol Hill and someone who is willing to make it a REAL issue.
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yabadaba
07-14 10:17 AM
3 business days ppl...monday-tuesday we ll see some info.
on another note...lets say august bulletin shows movement. what about ppl who have filed on july 2nd and beyond..what happens to their application? fees, etc have already been sent..how can we pay the extra fees?
on another note...lets say august bulletin shows movement. what about ppl who have filed on july 2nd and beyond..what happens to their application? fees, etc have already been sent..how can we pay the extra fees?
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GCAmigo
02-01 07:17 PM
all this seems to have passed on 01/24/07??
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vandanaverdia
09-19 08:43 PM
Coming to DC will be a memory most of us will cherish... and for a really long time...
Whether it was working late or eating dinner at 3 am or running to meetings, it was an enriching experience for all IV members. And it makes us proud that we stood up & made our presence felt & voices heard...
We all knew each other by IV handles... but meeting in DC put names & faces to those handles...
Meeting each & everyone was amazing and even more satisfying was that people came from different states & with families & kids...
A li'l disappointed with the locals who didn't turn up though.... and more so with those who walked on the other side of the road from all of us....
Whether it was working late or eating dinner at 3 am or running to meetings, it was an enriching experience for all IV members. And it makes us proud that we stood up & made our presence felt & voices heard...
We all knew each other by IV handles... but meeting in DC put names & faces to those handles...
Meeting each & everyone was amazing and even more satisfying was that people came from different states & with families & kids...
A li'l disappointed with the locals who didn't turn up though.... and more so with those who walked on the other side of the road from all of us....
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GC_sufferer
07-11 05:13 PM
I guess DOS/DHS won't provide all documentation, just like recent firing of US attorney.
I wonder how much power these committees have. It is clear from her letter that DOS/DHS chose not to respond to her or send her any info and defy her request to continue accepting AOS applications until she had a chance to review the matter closely. Committee has the subpoena power to force the document release and hold hearing but if DOS/DHS ignore her letter again, I wonder what would she do.
I guess the deadline is tomorrow so we'll see how this unfolds.
I wonder how much power these committees have. It is clear from her letter that DOS/DHS chose not to respond to her or send her any info and defy her request to continue accepting AOS applications until she had a chance to review the matter closely. Committee has the subpoena power to force the document release and hold hearing but if DOS/DHS ignore her letter again, I wonder what would she do.
I guess the deadline is tomorrow so we'll see how this unfolds.
GotGC??
05-16 07:50 PM
Thank you all who took the time to respond...
Hey i got a new passport after applying 485. Don't worry ..it has nothing to do with you 485
Hey i got a new passport after applying 485. Don't worry ..it has nothing to do with you 485
waitingGC
01-18 01:31 PM
I am also from the Chinese community and just have signed for a $20 monthly contribution.
I do urge people who have not made any contributions to act now!
If we don't contribute at this time, IV may have great difficulty in operating and may even be closed one day. At that time, no one organization would stand up to speak for us!
I have a PD of August 2005. Luckily, I have filed my 140/485 in Sept. 2005. I do believe that, in this forum, I am among the luckiest ones who have more freedom to change jobs and travel outside US. If you are in a situation worse than mine, for example, if you have not get your LC/PERM approved or if you have not file your 485 because of retrogression, don't you think you should be more motivated than me to contribute?
I would change my contribution to $50 monthly if we have 1000+ members to sign up for the monthly contribution. Meanwhile, I would cancel my contribution if this goal cannot be achieved by all our 8400 members within the next two months. I cannot see any point if most people who suffer from the possibility of waiting for years would not contribute while I, who might be one of the least painful ones, contribute.
I do urge people who have not made any contributions to act now!
If we don't contribute at this time, IV may have great difficulty in operating and may even be closed one day. At that time, no one organization would stand up to speak for us!
I have a PD of August 2005. Luckily, I have filed my 140/485 in Sept. 2005. I do believe that, in this forum, I am among the luckiest ones who have more freedom to change jobs and travel outside US. If you are in a situation worse than mine, for example, if you have not get your LC/PERM approved or if you have not file your 485 because of retrogression, don't you think you should be more motivated than me to contribute?
I would change my contribution to $50 monthly if we have 1000+ members to sign up for the monthly contribution. Meanwhile, I would cancel my contribution if this goal cannot be achieved by all our 8400 members within the next two months. I cannot see any point if most people who suffer from the possibility of waiting for years would not contribute while I, who might be one of the least painful ones, contribute.
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