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  • rdehar
    07-19 02:37 PM
    Thanks for the quick response, much appreciated. I think I have the answer to my question.
    1. RD will determine sequence in which AOS are looked at by case officers at USCIS. So July applicants with 2006 PD will geat EAD/AP, etc sooner than October applicants with 2002 PD.
    2. In the event of retrogression (say to 2005), only those applications which have a current PD at the time of visa approval will get the green card. So 2002 PD will get GC before 2006 PD.

    I hope I understood correctly?

    A 2002 PD would get GC earlier that 2006 PD, even though the 2006 PD may get EAD/AP and other benefits earlier. EAD and AP have nothing to do with PD, only I-485 depends on PD.

    Just pray your labor is approved by the time the dates move forward (hopefully in October).

    Also -- it doesn't hurt to be prepared -- get all documents ready asap ...

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  • sravani
    05-15 09:39 AM
    Thanks for this useful info. My attorney filed 485 concurrently with 140 last month. The USCIS physician did Skin test instead of X-ray. Do you think I will get an RFE for this?

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  • SGP
    04-06 07:09 AM
    $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$GOOD MORNING GC$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$

    Deadline = April 30th, 2011
    Goal = 5000 votes on survey (see I-485 filing w/o current PD thread) and momentum to continue with this campaign.The survey is a platform to gather and push for launching action items. Based on response by 04/30/2011 - IV will decide whether to even proceed with initiative or not.
    Actions - 1) Vote on survey.
    2)Email with PD, ph#,email & subject "I485 filing impacted�,
    3)Print/Circulate Fliers and spread FB, wiki link (see "support thread")

    This is a supporting thread to the "Want to File I-485 without Current Priority Date? Gather here" thread started by pappu.

    As suggested by pappu/starsun, this supporting thread provides impacted members with additional information and tools to help the initiative.

    Visit Immigration Voice Wiki ( 2C_and_EB3.29) - for overview of Employment Based - Green Card process
    Visit I485 Filing w/o current PD Wiki ( - for overview of this initiative

    As pappu stated in the first post of the above referenced thread - some of the ongoing efforts include finding how many IV members would get benefit from such a provision and get basic details such as username/Priority Date of impacted members. Future action items might include drafting documents and letters to support this provision. There maybe actions such as sending emails etc. However we would not be able to open a public action item unless we can have thousands of our members willing to participate in a grassroots action item. This survey intends to understand the needs of our membership for this provision and collect grassroots information.

    The fact is we have a dedicated group of volunteers (and we need more) who have been trying their best to spread the message about this initiative so that a strong grass-roots support can be created leading up to launch of the public action items. So far we have around 1100 people who have responded. Based on quick calculations carried out using PERM data, it is estimated that there are at least 60K-70K EB applicants waiting to file I-485/EAD/AP (this is a very conservative estimate..the actual number could be much more). Grass-roots initiatives require time and patience and we request maximum number of impacted folks to participate actively.
    What can you do to participate?
    1) Vote on the poll/survey created by Pappu.

    Then please send an email to (starsun) with subject - "I485 filing without current PD - Impacted Member". Include your a) IV username b) Email address c) Phone #, d) State of Residence e) Priority Date - so that grassroot efforts can be coordinated

    2) Print out below Flier and circulate at all asian/indian malls/groceries/theaters. Forward the flier to your friends/co-workers and ask them to do the same.

    I485 Filing Initiative Flier (

    3) Volunteers have created a facebook community and an Immigration Voice WIKI page to spread the message about this initiative. Please circulate these links among your friends/co-workers who will be helped.

    Please "Share" and "Link" and "send to friend" the facebook community via your Facebook account. Also include these two links when you post on the IV forum.

    Facebook - IV I485 filing w/o current PD initiative community (!/pages/Immigration-Voice-Grass-roots-Campaigns/150562351660693?v=info)

    (Just FYI that you might have to be logged in for the above link to direct to the facebook community. Alternately, search for "Immigration Voice Grass-roots Campaigns" to find the community after logging in. Search "Immigration Voice" to go to the IV's main facebook page)

    Immigration Wiki -
    I485 Filing Initiative - IV Wiki (

    PM these members for additional info:
    nmdial ; geevikram ; vbkris77 ; ashwin_27 ; snathan
    Dedicated members can also join the leaders group:

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  • GCNeophyte
    09-08 11:49 PM
    My experience with CGI houston was after waiting on call for 1 hr in queue with counting down my position in queue, IVR informed me that "No one is available to answer my call press 0 for operator" , this goes in loop. I never was able to speak to a person any time during my passport was with CGI houston.

    My advise if you are dealing with CGI houston is Send your passport and forget about month or so you will receive renewal after month.


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  • gccovet
    08-08 10:28 AM
    Updates on anybody's case.........

    GO IV GO.

    You had mentioned in your earlier post that reports EAD approvals are moving. How to check that? also, would you mind checking again whenever you get a chance, no rush.



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  • mhathi
    05-16 04:45 PM
    I removed congressman Henry Cuellar from the list as he is now the co sponsor of all three bills

    Awesome news!! GO IV!


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  • coopheal
    07-14 03:40 PM
    Don't say EB2 guys are brightest....I have seen many of my friends sitting on bench till now more than a year in body shopping company's getting greencards now........

    Comments like this is only going to embolden the anti and support their false arugments.

    Now you have two options.... help out antis by putting comments like this
    help yourself by helping IV in terms of money, time and efforts.

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  • Edison99
    09-29 11:41 AM
    Could you update your profile before drafting your plan? It helps IV community to understand your concerns�

    Well I had called a NY congresswoman when I was stuck in a H1 name check. I found them open and willing to help. She even contacted the FBI.

    Well I am just an ordinary person, and the same as everyone here, and not saying I will do everything myself. There are persons who are better skilled at this and know the immigration law better.

    Also don't rule out lobbying, I just said we also need something else that should justify our case without a lobby. I'm asking for suggestions or ideas.
    I may be new here, If you see my post on the other forum, I'm asking for the creation of an organization with skilled people who will create a new campaign among legal immigrants. Kind of like Grass roots movement.

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  • susie
    11-04 10:26 AM
    Susie, I can say quite strongly that IV's agenda is quite officially
    "H1B quota is not an issue that we wish to take any sides on".

    We are trying to reduce the backlogs as a primary goal.

    The main aim is to reduce the backlogs which will also reduce the age out problem, but not fix for those already aged out. Believe me, even if this was the only issue on the agenda, it is hard enough to get this done.

    If we don't fix the backlogs then age out will be irrelevant. Let's imagine that H1B quota is increased, and EB3 ROW never becomes current because of more H1B ROW newbies. Then EB3 India will never get any spill over. In this case new India EB3 applications could easily have a 25 year wait, by which time the primary petitioner will have retired invalidating the whole application. Thus you can see that increasing H1B quota works against us (although the official position is no position).

    I am considering computer modeling this, because I think that the a 25 year wait is very possible with the current scheme (making age out easier to push maybe).

    If there is an opportunity to provide ago out protection without risking the main aim then I think that it will be taken. First we need a seat at the negotiating table.

    Until we get a seat at the table we have the trade off between raising age out complicates things, and raising age out keeps it personal. There has been some debate over the, I think that the professionals recommend "keep it simple".

    My position on this is to raise the age out and other family issues like US citizen children being forced to leave because their parents are. But only raise it with those law makers it will clearly be received well with, and not be a distraction.

    There are other issues worthy of targeting, but they too complicate things, and risk us not getting a seat at the table. For example banning consulting. This could force many to leave, including their children, through not fault of their own. I think that consulting should at very least be grandfathered, and have some other exceptions. But again pushing that would be a distraction.

    As I said, if we get a seat at the table, this issue has a chance.

    We are currently working on getting that seat.

    Thanks for your post, support and understanding as you know many H1B children still age out as do many other children who entered the us legally.

    I am so passionate about this issue if iv decide to do something I would help in any way I could


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  • willwin
    10-12 03:59 PM
    BharatPremi Please tell me I am wrong! i collected some data... and just by looking at it... it seems like EB3 will move very very slowly not as per your prediction! I m not a stats guru perhaps you or anyone who is a stats guru can shed some light here!

    What is your EB3-India PD (I-485 either pending, or not yet filed)

    Total Applicants (that voted) = 206
    % distribution
    43.21% 2001/2002/2003
    25.25% 2004
    16.51% 2005
    13.59% 2006
    1.46% 2007

    Total Visa available / country = 140000/7% = 9800 in a year
    Keep aside 10% for other categories, so 90% available for EB2 and EB3
    9800 - 980 = 8820 total available for India EB2/EB3
    50-50 between eb2 eb3 (assumption - probably a bad assumption)
    4410/year available for EB3?

    (This is where it really gets tricky!)
    Approximate Indian EB3 Applications
    Total Indian applicants / 2 (50-50 between eb2 and eb3)
    Total 200k (low estimate) so EB3 100k approx
    + 100k Dependants = 200k Total EB3

    Year 2001/2002/2003 = 43.21% = 46286

    Number of years to clear off Backlog (2003 and prior) = 46286/4410 = 10 1/2 years

    Up until 1/5/2007 PD was stable at around 5/8/2001

    I think EB3 movement will be very slow based on above calculations

    EDIT: Even if Unused Visas get funneled down to EB3 India > cut the time in 1/2 still looks like 4-5 years to clear EB3 < 2003

    Does this sound right?

    __________________________________________________ ______
    VB History (Since Retrogression)
    Year - Priority Date
    1/12/2004 - C
    1/1/2005 - 1/1/2002
    1/2/2005 - 1/1/2002
    1/3/2005 - 3/1/2002
    1/4/2005 - 4/1/2002
    1/5/2005 - 6/1/2002
    1/6/2005 - 6/1/2002
    1/7/2005 - U
    1/8/2005 - U
    1/9/2005 - U
    1/10/2005 - 1/1/1998
    1/11/2005 - 1/1/1998
    1/12/2005 - 1/1/1999
    1/1/2006 - 6/1/1999
    1/2/2006 - 1/1/2000
    1/3/2006 - 1/1/2001
    1/4/2006 - 2/1/2001
    1/5/2006 - 3/1/2001
    1/6/2006 - 4/8/2001
    1/7/2006 - 4/15/2001
    1/8/2006 - 4/1/2001
    1/9/2006 - 4/15/2001
    1/10/2006 - 4/22/2001
    1/11/2006 - 4/22/2001
    1/12/2006 - 4/22/2001
    1/1/2007 - 5/8/2001
    1/2/2007 - 5/8/2001
    1/3/2007 - 5/8/2001
    1/4/2007 - 5/8/2001
    1/5/2007 - 5/8/2001
    1/6/2007 - 6/1/2003
    1/7/2007 - C
    1/8/2007 - U
    1/9/2007 - U
    1/10/2007 - 4/22/2001
    1/11/2007 - 4/22/2001

    Let me start saying that I am not 'stats guru' either.

    My simple way of looking at it is the way it happened in June-July 2007. Why did they open the gates? To use up the VISA numbers for the FY.

    What can they do to do the same this year? Open it again (may not make it current but to the extent they can use 140000 by Sep 30 2008).

    As most 485 applications will notbe processed for another 6-9 months (among Jun-Aug filers), dates will move forward (may become current as well) and whoever has their 485, name check processed will get their GC besides all pending at CP.

    They definitely do not have 140000 processed, name-check-completed 485 applications at hand. Hence dates will move.

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  • perm2gc
    06-29 05:25 PM
    Are the attorneys and law firms spreading rumors about
    EB retogression on July 2nd ?

    Cynical view:
    May be they hope to discourage other people from filing this

    Non-cynical view:
    May be they everyone is nervous and gone insane?:D
    one more nail on our coffin :D


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  • sreeni78
    02-25 12:14 PM
    I can't make it to DC.Just made a recurring donation.Go IV!!!

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  • doknek
    05-01 01:28 PM
    Please check my signature...I am stuck in Atlanta. For more than few months, Atlanta has not been touching the Audit cases at all. Just makes me angry:mad:

    This is my first time here. I want very much to get the Audit issue resolved (if we could)


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  • sandy_anand
    07-23 03:38 PM

    My labor certification was filed in Dec. '06. Since its date of filing, the online case status was showing as "in process". However, on 07/20/07, last week, the status changed to "case denied".

    1) What are the next steps?

    2) Do I need to refile the labor certification. If yes, how soon can it be done?

    3) Can it be filed for the same position or it needs to be filed for a different position?

    4) Should I find a new employer to file for labor certification as my current employer could not get my labor certification approved or I should stick with this employer itself and file for a new labor certification?

    Please help me out.


    Sorry to hear about your bad luck. It really depends on why the case was denied. Your best bet would be to talk to your attorney to find out why it was rejected. Depending on the reason, the attorney can file an appeal.

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  • speddi
    06-02 01:21 PM
    I didnt. I dont know if there is any number to call to find the status.


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  • kbsyed61
    09-03 05:17 PM
    By grace of Almighty, finally my Inbox received the email from USCIS that I was eagerly waiting for.

    Just few minutes back, I received the Email from USCIS for myself, my wife and daughter saying "Current Status: Notice mailed welcoming the new permanent resident".

    It's a long journey started in August 1997 with landing in Washington Dulles Airport. Got a chance to start the GC process by filing Labor in 2001. The labor approval didn't come until 2007.

    In 2004 had to take a transfer to different company which caused me to start the Labor again in Nov 2004. Lost the valuable 3 years of PD date.

    Finally the approval for 2nd labor came just right before 2007 July Fiasco. Luckily I had my attorney filed my application on July 2nd itself. And Rest you know the story.

    All throughout I was on H1B, on permanent employment and never out of status. Never had any problem with Immigration process except for the GC delay. In any way it was an interesting journey, making new friends, had the chance to live in SFO, LA, New Jersey, Virginia and currently in Maryland.

    Many thanks to IV and its members for providing the wonderful platform for sharing and collaborating for common cause.

    I wish all the best to all those who are still in queue. Hang in there. Your turn will come.

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  • ram112
    09-03 05:07 AM

    I got greened today, surprisingly. Could anyone let me know what are the good numbers to reach a human in USCIS, hopefully with less wait time. I wanted to check with them what address they have on file. I filed an address change in JUne but I am not sure if they have it right in their systems. Also, is there a way to get this information without calling them.

    Thanks a lot ..

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  • Edison99
    09-01 01:49 PM
    Congrats NolaIndian32 and enjoy the freedom!

    12-26 02:57 PM
    I will add my $100 & send the checks. One more co-worker will put in $50 through the credit card.

    Let us all try like this from our co workers. I think guys do not mind paying but are too lazy to write the check. So we need to chase them...

    One more technique, I have used.... give your friend $10 or $20 in cash & ask him to go online and contribute an amount by adding some money to your cash contribution...

    09-01 11:20 AM
    You deserve it buddy. You have done a lot for the community. Please enjoy your freedom to the fullest and also keep on supporting the efforts you have started.

    Once again congrats to you and your family. Enjoy your trip to INDIA!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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