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  • JazzByTheBay
    12-13 09:09 PM
    Probably the best argument I've read all day, and your take on it makes a lot more sense - great for a sanity check! :)

    cheers!
    jazz

    As you use the phrase Check Mate....

    Chess is all about thinking strategically several moves ahead.
    Given the current political climate on immigration I think that we will be in a check mate position (on the loosing end) if we pursue that road.

    The anti's would be all over us as soon as we filed in federal district court probably even before a hearing, and definitely after a hearing. If we lost in lower courts the Supreme Court would probably refuse to hear the appeal, in the mean time we'd have just stirred up the anti's hornets nest against us, just as much if not worse than against the illegals.

    Asking Congress to make small changes in the existing laws annoys the anti's. Telling them or forcing them to wholesale rewrite their laws would make us public enemy #1. We would be lucky to have more than a handful of law makers willing to stand up for us. It would kill off all lobbying ability.

    Think of lobbying as polite negotiation.
    Think of Supreme court case as picking a fist fight, in which we are badly out numbered.
    Once you have started a fist fight it is much harder to negotiate, especially from a loosing position.


    I would rather negotiate than fight, I would rather lobby than court challenge.

    So yes, check mate, if we follow this route.
    Alternatively, a British phase: Royally screwed!





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  • PlainSpeak
    01-13 12:43 PM
    Only one thing I like in this big post,, that is you are not HE you are SHE... we can be friends, you are so nice.

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  • Rohan99
    07-26 02:46 PM
    I like this thread a lot. It is so relaxing, especially after reading "EB2-EB3 Predictions (Rather Calculations).. " this thread is so intense, and uses 100% of brain capacity


    You seem to be enjoying this thread. This should be lighten up - 2 :)





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  • sunny1000
    01-05 04:55 PM
    ^^^^^

    WTF? why are you bumping this useless thread?



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  • mirage
    04-01 12:17 PM
    I haven't seen anything more laughable than this for quiet some time...BTW do you think by chanting "Green Card" 100 times a day will get you green card or Not talking about India will get it, should we stop talking to people about India here & stop going to India and stop making calls to India since we are focussing on Green Cards ? If you don't want to be a part of discussion ignore it, be it on top or bottom of the threads. I meet people who have been living in this country for past 40 years and still today, all that they discuss is 'India', how do you expect us, who are Indians, Not discuss India ?
    You Idiot,
    When you keep updating this thread it keeps coming on top.
    I ignored it for a few days and finally clicked to see what the Fuck is going on here.

    Now it seems even moderators are joining this madness.

    If infighting keeps continuing on this forum and you keep discussing non-immigration related topics here, you will never get your green card. FOCUS!

    It is strange that you all want green card so that you live in USA but pretend to be SOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO concerned about Prime Minister of India and then start blaming each other..

    No wonder NumbersUSA etc are succeding..


    Pappu,
    Please remove my profile and user ID from the system. I can't be part of these morons. I shall get my GC when I shall have to get it. I am not here to discuss non-GC related issues. There are many more forums to do that.





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  • poorslumdog
    09-04 12:12 PM
    Guys,

    Here is the list of people who recently died in my village. Let us all pray for their soul to rest in peace. Please understand that when we can pray for YSR..we can do for these people also. Every life has the same value...dont you agree..

    1. Rasu Devan
    2. Kenkai ammal
    3. Gandhi mathi (lady only).

    Please all do pray for the poor souls. From today onwords I will post all the dead people list in IV and let us all pray for them. Thanks for your support and prayer. Please let your freinds and family know about this and ask them to join in our prayer. Once again thanks guys.

    You are more than welcome to give red dots.



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  • kukitron
    09-29 11:54 AM
    Hi there,

    I also used automatic revalidation about 3 months back.. Dont worry, The immigration officer there knows all the rules. FYI, I went by car from rainbow bridge. While comming back officer just asked me normal questions such as "Where are you from ? " and "When are you flying back to Houston ?". Thats about it..

    --HumHongeKamiyab
    I just arrived yesterday from Canada with an expired Visa and my extension notice from INS.

    Unfortunatly, they officer was an ignorant pig without any knowledge about immigration. Luckily, I was sent to an office where officers were nice and well trained,

    I recommend you to print out the actual law so you can have more arguments and arrive earlier to the airport if you are flying





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  • humdesi
    11-09 11:07 AM
    Found an interesting thread on this topic in immigrationportal. The post below is by vm_gc who got his GC recently:

    Hi qwerty1111,

    I completely understand where your comment is coming from and respect your comments. But to be fair, i think it's just not appropriate making such comment without completely knowing my situvation.

    I came to this country in 2000 and start working for my current employer, one of the reputed big technology company, in 2000. As the dot com bust started in late 2000, my company stopped applying green cards for employees as per law (since they were not in a position to show not availability of people with my skills and at the same time they started laying off people). But i still chose to stay with my current employer due to the kind of work we do and learning opportunities in my job. Finally my employer applied my GC in 2005 that to non-RIR category (not even RIR category as they still had some issues in applying RIR) as my 6year term was coming near. And this labor is still rotting in the backlog center and i don't know when it will be cleared (and i have already completed my 6year h1b term).

    And in sept 2005, my employer gave me a sub labor, as the labor matched my skills and based on my superior performance (since there were many people similiar to my situvation in my company). This sub labor, i neither bought with money nor with some recommendations. It's completely earned by working hard.

    And the same time, while i was waiting for my labor to be applied, many of friends and people i know of, who came to this country at much later time, went to work for small consultancy companies, applied GC and got GC long time back. How ?. because the small companies don't even follow the laws, can apply GCs in RIR (by showing some junk proofs) and they will open a satelite offices in places like maine, wisconsin (just for their employees GCs) and get the labor approved at a faster rate. While we working at big companies wait for labor to be applied by following strict laws.

    You tell me what is fair in this country, when it comes to immigration process.

    Your situvation could be much worse than me, but that's mainly due to the broken immigration process in country.

    I am not taking any offense on your comments. I wish you good luck and i hope your GC will come through soon.
    __________________
    Sub Labor PD: 8/21/2002, EB2, India
    I-140 : RD 09/22/2005, AD 03/01/2006
    I-485: RD 09/22/2005, AD 11/07/2006
    05/31/2006 : lawyer sent a letter with supporting documents to USCIS for correcting PD on I-140 approval notice. I-140 approval PD shows as 09/22/2005.
    09/14/06: received updated I-140 approval notice with correct PD.
    Finger Prints/Name check - cleared (according to USCIS letter)



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  • sertasheep
    07-03 04:42 PM
    We have the following stories compiled so far;

    New Jersey Member Stories (http://www.mydatabus.com/public/immigrationvoice/NJ_Stories_V5.pdf)

    Disclaimer:This is a PDF. Please use your discretion and caution in scanning it for viruses.

    Please note that we need all the extra help, and require your diligent set of eyes and ears.
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  • immi_enthu
    07-26 07:38 PM
    Anyone can make money in a ponzi scheme..quixtar people just stalk and talk to strangers and ask for their phone number.

    Respect other people. Sorry if this offends you.
    When did talking to strangers a crime. If you dont like you can always say no :-) . If you are as ambitious as us come join us and make millions by 40. Otherwise live your fixed income lives .

    I wont be offended as I am not with Amway/Quixtar I am just posting on behalf of them for fun :-)



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  • BharatPremi
    09-24 12:06 PM
    I think your analysis considers EB1(ROW)+EB2(ROW) spill over to EB3(ROW) that is not true,

    EB1 Overflow ---> EB2
    EB2 Overflow ---> EB2(I)+EB China

    That means as per your calculation, it would be 19,282 considering 0 EB1 and EB2 filled in 2010.

    As i said in my previous posts EB2 would be May 2006 by end of this year for sure.
    Best case scenario considering more than 30K spill over it would be end of 2006.

    You are also calculating spillover as of today with the pending cases, but the spill over happens only in Last quarter of 2010. There would be some if not more EB1+EB2 ROW applicants.

    One thing for spillover is sure and that is it is happening at the end of a year. If we read the Visa bulletin 2 methods of spillover can be derived.

    1) Spillover within preference first and then to country

    Example: additional numbers of EB2- I go to EB2-M/C and after that any left ones go to
    EB3 category
    2) Spillover within contry first

    Example: EB2-I - any extra numbers go to EB3-I and still left go to "unused" ready to be used by other oversubscribed country.

    Now USCIS may be doing spillover by any of these methods or combination. I think none of us have exact proof which way USCIS does spillover.

    In analysis we need to assume one or other path and that is what I did.

    Yes, current new influx of applications is a major item to factor in but I was working on the data what USCIS published and it has not published current influx. Every month calculations get changed.





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  • Eternal_Hope
    02-15 11:56 AM
    If you google retrogression, IV doesn't show up until page 2.
    Is there anyway we can change this? So that IV is the first link that shows up? Anyway know about this.


    Type "retrogression" in Google search bar - when the results page shows up, look at the right hand side, there under the Sponsored Links you will see IV advertisement and link.

    Looks pretty cool. GO IV!



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  • mbawa2574
    03-27 01:57 PM
    widower zardari will be marrying kumari mayawati just after election to unite subcontinent and bring peace to world.

    ...:d:d:d





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  • kumarc123
    07-17 10:36 AM
    I mean EB2 India will be current with in a year.

    vdlroa my friend I couldn't agree less with you on that statement. Eb2 will saturate a lot of visa numbers, and will ultimately benefit our friends in EB3. As per now I believe, we should focus on creating more visibility for our cases, which will eventually help EB3 as well.


    Thanks



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  • chanduv23
    08-17 03:21 PM
    This should not be a silly topic and won't be...I want to take this opportunity to bring the bigger issue here... things happen for a reason... we all need to understand that we have to make a positive out of this issue... Atleast all educated folks like us should be able to channel our wisdom to those folks who feels that they are above all... That kind of mentality should need to change in INDIA for people like SRK and politicians and lot of business tycoons.... I believe this incident is very good opportunity, one more time, once again for all those conscious folks who live here US and INDIA to make things better for life.

    "snathan" do not disappoint when people disagree with you... I 100% concur with your thought process...


    "chanduv23"

    I like the way that you put things in a perspective called your own prism. I do agree lot of things that you say but you seem lack of very basic fundamental human touch...

    World is a BEAUTIFUL PLACE... Mother EARTH is an awesome place to live... do not fall into a trap those who morons used and twisted great peoples words and made this place worse for political gains/reasons. Please do not twist/turn the great one and only Einstein words and his context is different.

    My point here is "Respect should be given by that acts that you do in life...should not be given just by demand"

    All I am saying is that "IN INDIA WE GOT SOOOOOOO MANY PROBLEMS TO SOLVE" why SRK cribbing about this incident... and innocent/ignorant and un educated folks going crazy over there.... instead he can do lot of better things in INDIA so that he can be recognized all over the world and given respect.


    EDUCATION, EDUCATION AND EDUCATION is the only solution for all the problems in the world.

    Well - world is definitely a beautiful place. World is beautiful because of beautiful good people. Like there is a saying "How is house different from a home? House maybe be beatiful and big but it is a home ONLY if it is a happy place to live" and making the world our home lies in how we make sure that it is a happy place to live.

    While your approach towards solving the problems is "education" in my opinion education does help, but that is NOT the only factor. Change happens gradually. Don't we all agree that the most educated people might be the biggest "problem creators"


    WRT snathan - he is a personal friend and I know him. He is sympathetic towards poor and downtrodden and wants to fight against injustice etc.....

    To snathan - to understand things in a better perspective, I recommend that you try this. Invite 30 hungry, poor, starving people to your house and provide them with food, education, good life and ask them to seek opportunities to better themselves. You may face the following

    (1) People may get more demanding
    (2) They may fight among themselves
    (3) Some might steal from you
    (4) Some might get into unethical activities
    (5) Some might disrespect you and step over you
    (6) They may show more respect to those who did not care for them and curse you for some silly reason.

    You might find some good people who really do what you intend them to do.

    Why I say this is - there is no GOOD POOR MAN nor BAD RICH MAN - different people behave different in different circumstances.

    Did you know that India's independence struggle, American civil liberty struggle were all funded by rich businessmen - they trusted the leaders and gave a lot of money for campaigns for them to be successful.





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  • sumagiri
    07-23 12:27 PM
    Guys,

    I think we have talked and analyzed enough about how many visas available for August and September and pretty much arrived at conclusion that at the minimum 20K visas available. (Thanks to vdlrao).


    Now we should talk about capability of USCIS and its processing speed? What is the normal approval rate with USCIS's regular processing. Also we heard that USCIS recruited many people, Do we suppose to see any improvement in processing. Do we think all the 20K visas will be used within 2 months?


    If USCIS is going to approve only 5K visas over next 2 months, there is no point in talking how many visas left.

    Thanks

    GCWhru,

    I went back and verified if there were calculations on how we got that 20K. I couldn't find one. Please point me to the source, if there is one.

    As of now, All the mathematical and statistical estimations were on total EB2 usage and spill over for this year. Not on how many visas are left over or used up. Not all the spill over is left for these two months. Some or most of that spill over is already used up.

    I think 20k was some guess based on number of labor filings from April 2004 to June 2006. The EB2 date move is based on USICS/DOS estimation on how many are documentarily qualified. It is important to remember that not every one with priority date before June 2006 are documentarily qualified. Some are still waiting for I-140 approval and some of them had RFEs.

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  • sachug22
    09-17 11:06 AM
    When it took about 2 years spill over visas (2008 and 2009) for the EB2 India dates to move from April 2004 to Jan 2005, I am sure you could estimate how long it would take to cross a year.

    In 2008 the spillover was distributed evenly between 2004/2005/2006. It was 2009 spillover that clean most of the cases in 2003 and 2004. As of 1st Oct there are next to nothing cases from 2003, very few from 2004.

    Plus in 2008/2009 CIS had EB2-ROW applications that they can approve, this year they do not have the EB2-ROW cushion.





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  • vjkypally
    09-17 04:37 PM
    I do not think it would be 10,000 primary. Probably around 3000 ~ 5000 primary applications. But if you consider dependents yes we may be talking about nearly 10,000 EB2I visas.





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  • breddy2000
    09-24 06:09 PM
    If you see the numbers for EB2 ROW there are still 7000 visas pending.
    Offcourse many are from 2007 and 2008

    How is it possible?Is it not EB2 ROW and EB1 was always current?

    1997 1
    1998 3
    1999 1
    2000 11
    2001 47
    2002 67
    2003 69
    2004 219
    2005 493
    2006 973
    2007 1,531
    2008 3,473
    2009 262
    Grand Total 7,150



    Also EB1 has the following data

    1997 4
    1998 1
    1999 0
    2000 1
    2001 32
    2002 57
    2003 32
    2004 29
    2005 41
    2006 135
    2007 537
    2008 898
    2009 710
    Grand Total 2,477

    Does this mean this data is not accurate as of date. So if it means that all of those applications are approved as of today there are no more EB2 ROW 485 applications pending for FY 2010 apart from the recently filed in PERM stage?





    racoon786
    07-10 11:44 AM
    I am planning on moving to Canada in the next 12 months since I already have PR there. I have no hopes for getting GC any time soon and wouldn't want to be toyed by the USCIS, DOS, Senators and all the anti-immigration lobbies out there.





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    07-12 06:38 AM
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