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  • hiralal
    06-11 08:12 AM
    ratturani, i am seeing an increasing number of posts that state the facts as clearly as you have stated... thats great... now i think somewhere some day, someone will float a good idea of motivating employers such as MS, Intel, BAC etc to fight for us instead of trying to motivate only the congress... see, we dont have too much of power in congress... :-(
    very good points.
    this is what we do till infinity ...discuss discuss discuss.
    open more threads, discuss discuss discuss.
    end.
    we discuss more than the congress.

    let us come with small numerous campaigns to highlight the contributions of legal immigrants..atleast that will prevent people from getting bored





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  • mantric
    12-13 12:36 PM
    Here's the percentages of the top 10 populations of the world by nationality. How many of them are more than 7% ?

    China 20.0 %
    India 17.2 %
    United States 4.6 %
    Indonesia 3.4 %
    Brazil 2.8 %
    Pakistan 2.6 %
    Nigeria 2.5 %
    Russia 2.2 %
    Bangladesh 2.1 %
    Japan 2.0 %

    Based on this one can conclude that the 7% nationality rule is a veiled effort to limit Indian and Chinese immigrants specifically. Does this not amount to discrimination by nationality ? In addition we as legal immigrants are taxed without any representation. Taxation without representation was the reason the US was created in the first place.

    US history is full of examples where discrimination existed in one form or another and these discriminations were sucessfully challenged. A few examples are women's voting rights, minority voting rights and gerrymandering. These are good examples to study where the affected people had no legal voice to begin with.

    The civil rights movement is a recent example. There were existing laws that limited people from voting based on their literacy levels in the southern states. The literacy requirement for voting was really a thinly veiled attempt to limit voting rights of african americans for as long as possible. The civil rights movement was about changing these artificial laws to give voting rights to people who legally had no voice.
    http://www.usdoj.gov/crt/voting/intro/intro_c.htm

    You don't need to be a lawyer to speak up for your hardships as a law abiding resident. This country has tremendous protections for people living here which is what makes it great. We as an immigrant community need to build our awareness of US history and government if we expect things to change.





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  • kumjay
    06-27 04:20 PM
    Last one was good one from arihant.
    Lets move dates back to.......hmmm....when Columbus discovered America. Guys....Was Columbus on H1-B? Then he changed his status to Green Card....Gosh....dates were current when Columbus landed.....





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  • JazzByTheBay
    12-13 04:34 PM
    If someone from country X, Y, or Z comes in on that same quota, that's OK - but we can't accept folks from countries A, B and C??

    jazz

    Let's assume that it can not be fought within US Constitutional framework then do we have a choice to bring this to international court level? Can US prove that keeping per country immigration quota for EB categories is not a discrimination but a policy to protect its citizens or per say to protect its industry/economy?



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  • greatguy
    01-24 10:07 AM
    I think, it is too light a sentence for the crook





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  • eb3_nepa
    10-24 10:00 AM
    Lets say you have a company. You apply for some-one's labor. The labor is approved. Then the guy leaves. So you have one approved labor. You can then ask me to give you a "gift" of lets say $30,000 and in due course you will employ me in that position. Technically this is illegal, just like it is to take campaign contributions to vote in a certain way...But in practice it is hard to establish quid pro quo in these cases. More so when the person is willingly paying the money and is not willing to turn on the seller. So people who say you can buy LCs legally are WRONG.

    Ok got it thanks Amoljak

    So then that is the only way one can SELL you an approved LC?



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  • JazzByTheBay
    07-03 09:15 PM
    Were you kidding???? :)

    No, really.... ? :)

    Thanks for asking anyways. The "content" is covered by Creative Commons license. :)
    do you mind using what you wrote for emaling the media ?

    thanks.





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  • Macaca
    01-17 09:25 AM
    Anti-immigrant racists are closely watching this forum.


    These US born donkeys - Dustbin, Gr ass ley, Sanders, Hira, Matloff, Moira Herbst, Thibodeau, Miano, Kim Berry, Rob Sanchez, Donna Conroy, ... - have US Citizenship (USC) tatooed on their A-S-S.

    Every time someone asks them to do something, they flash the USC on their ass.

    It worked a couple of times at welfare. After that, and at all other places, everyone U-R-I-N-A-T-E-S on their USC.

    as per some misguided folks in USCIS going after the h1b consulting companies will DRAMATICALLY improve the job market for locals here. However the truth is that it is not going to help the locals.

    Janet Napolitano and Hilda Solis Memos cannot stop anyone from unrinating on these thorough bred US born A-S-S-E-S.



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  • sanju
    02-16 09:37 AM
    We have enough grounds for lawsuit without them.

    That is one way to look at things. The important thing is, whether the Judge looks at the situation the same way. It will be tough job to convince the Judge. If you seek legal opinion from a lawyer, lawyers mostly tend to say that you have a case expecting that that lawyer will be the one filing the lawsuit (i.e. making the money). So be careful with the idea and advise from a lawyer.

    And more importantly, even if 'we have a case', do we have folks who are willing to be plaintiff in this lawsuit. Are you or Googler or chandu (because he replied to my earlier posts suggesting that we will find someone to lead) willing to be the plaintiff, or are you encouraging others (putting the gun on other's shoulder to fire) to be the plaintiff. If you see that there is chance/value in filing lawsuit, why don't you decide to be the plaintiff? Either way, if you are a plaintiff or if you know someone who wants to be one, why don't you take this to IV team.

    Say we have a case, then to go to the next step we need -

    1.) Someone willing to take the initiative/lead
    2.) Plaintiff
    3.) Resources
    4.) There maybe more that I am not able to think at this time, because I no experience of filing class action lawsuit.

    How to find what we need to file lawsuit -

    For (1.), I suggest someone willing to give out his/her name as plaintiff should contact IV. I saw that folks are discussing this on too, but that site is not a non-profit. That site is owned by some guy who is earning good money of off the ads on his site. He won't spend resources to file for lawsuit although he has made good money off of the woes of others tracking their green card case status. So the only viable option is to get IV involved.

    For (2.), if you want to see this through, then, at least one of around 180 folks who voted for filing lawsuit should be willing to be the plaintiff. If not, then someone needs to make phone calls to find a possible plaintiff.

    For (3.), as mentioned above, I don't know of any one organized effort other than IV to lead such an effort of a lawsuit.





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  • go_guy123
    06-14 05:58 PM
    You have got the same Indian mentality that most of the people here that once we got a GC and citizenship let us close the doors behind us.

    ....
    Who are you to judge the people coming after you that they are not skilled or the best and brightest.



    Well he is a permanent resident of US and soon to be USC and majority of US citizens
    want reduced immigration to US and can vote in elections accordingly.

    Immigration is such a hot topic I dont see Obama doing anything before his second term.



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  • gondalguru
    07-15 11:09 PM
    Some one has done a very good analysis in this thread.

    http://immigrationvoice.org/forum/showthread.php?t=4285&page=107

    Here is copy and paste of the post by gcobessesed

    ----------------------------------

    Reading this post and the Ron Gotcher numbers, I see some answers for the pending India backlog number question and a silver lining for EB2.

    Quote:
    Originally Posted by drirshad View Post
    (Quoting Ron Gotcher) The CIS backlog does not appear to be as serious as I had been told previously. Rather than 600,000 pending employment based AOS cases, it is likely less than 400,000 pending cases.
    Quote:
    Indian applicants make up approximately 40 to 45 per cent of the entire employment based quota backlog
    Therefore, about 160,000 applications are pending for India!

    As we have seen before, EB3 and EB2 are almost the same proportion for India with EB3 being slightly higher. So, about 85,000 for EB3 and 75,000 for EB2 are pending.

    Quote:
    Mr. Oppenheim explained that while the Visa Office initially took the view that visa numbers had to fall down into employment third preference before the could fall across to the individual country quotas, but after further review, additional legislation, and consultation with Congress, they concluded that they have to allocate the fall across within individual preference petitions first.
    This means, EB2 will get all unused EB1 visas and EB3 will only get 1/3 of the total 140,000 employment based visas (and 7% per country) until EB2 becomes current.

    Also, because 40-45% of the applications are from India, we can assume 40% of the yearly EB1+EB2 *may* be applied to EB2 India. i.e. approximately 35,000 visas per year for India EB2!!!

    Putting this in perspective with the pending 75,000 EB2 India applications, we should see all of them approved in the next 3 years. i.e. If your EB2 India priority date is in early 2007, then your I-485 will be approved by 2011, which is fantastic!

    If you assume a uniform distribution of applications between Apr 2004 and Apr 2007 (say), it is straightforward to calculate when your date might become current in the next 3 years.

    So, according to this, the cut-off date for EB2 India should move towards end of 2004 in the Oct/Nov bulletin. If that happens, then the above argument will be validated.
    __________________


    I am very confident that EB-2 india will become current in about 14-18 months.





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  • old_hat
    05-01 07:27 PM
    I agree with you. It really amazes me that India is not even saying "something" being a so-called "super-power" in south Asia. Until the last generation of politicians are out of the indian political system, nothing is going to change when it comes to the image or pride of India. At least we should exert out strength and take a leadership role in South Asia and show our power.

    India has a history in Sri Lanka. It started long ago with IPKF. A lot of Indian lives were lost because IPKF had to fight the war with their hands tied. IPKF could have captured Pirbhakaran but they did not because Rajeev thought Tamils will not get their rights if they did so. Then Rajeev Gandhi got assassinated. A few years back LTTE had the upper hand and Sri Lankan govt wanted India to step in and help them. India did not sent the troops. now the battle has swung the other way. It is fairly complicated.



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  • pbuckeye
    07-30 03:06 PM
    After reading so many cold calling failures, I am yet to see a "success story" of this methodology.

    If nobody got "converted" after being approached by a total stranger in a public place, why does BWW/Quixstar/Amway continue to do it.

    Perhaps we should ask Q/Teddy to collect this data, analyze it and prove to them the futility of it all. Maybe then they will stop and everybody can shop/work/study in peace. :D





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  • dupedinjuly
    07-04 01:21 AM
    IV release.:Please send it to other media offices and free press release distribution services
    http://www.prlog.org/10022648-no-celebration-for-thousands-of-highly-skilled-future-americans-this-july-4th.html

    I have joined immigrationvoice today. I did contact all the major newspapers in Utah. I was called back by DeseretNews. I was called back and gave almost and hour of interview (more than one call). The story publication in Deseretnews is imminent on July 4 or 5.

    Hi,

    The Dept of State and Dept of Homeland Security(USCIS) acted against the interests of immigrants trying to immigrate legally. Legal immigration is the real issue. If it works, there
    will not be a need to grant amnesty to millons of illegal alilens. The real solution to stop
    illegal immigration is to make legal immigration work. Unfortunately, the government is going
    in the opposite direction as evident by the actions of DOS and DOHS on July 2, 2007.
    I would be happy if you would be kind enough to publish this story and bring the issue
    of legal immigration to light. After all, thats what everybody wants, immigration to be
    orderly and legal, but is it workable ? and why people trying to follow the law feel
    cheated and duped by the government, after waiting patiently for years and abiding to
    the laws.

    Regards,

    No Celebration For Thousands of Highly-Skilled Future Americans this July 4th
    http://www.prlog.org/10022648-no-celebration-for-thousands-of-highly-skilled-future-americans-this-july-4th.html

    Administration Slams Door on Thousands of Legal Immigrants: AILA Condemns Agencies Bait and Switch
    http://www.aila.org/content/default.aspx?docid=22804

    Legal workers lose chance at green cards - Associated Press
    http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/I/IMMIGRATION_GREEN_CARDS?SITE=CAANR&SECTION=HOME&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT

    Further References:
    www.immigrationvoice.org
    www.aila.org
    www.shusterman.com
    www.murthy.com
    www.immigration-law.com



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  • weasley
    07-31 07:07 AM
    Thanks Thampi. Someone does not see that as funny as you. Gave me two reds. But I dont care. That was a just a joke and I did not belittle anyone.

    :D:D:p:D Very funny. I just love this thread. For a moment we can forget about the stupid GC fiasco.





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  • GCOP
    09-23 01:15 PM
    I agree with this. Please Include Current Homeowners in the proposal, who are already contributing to economy while still waiting for the Greencard. Current Homeowners should not be be left out from the proposal.
    Nixtor,

    I like your idea, but please consider current homeowners as well in your proposal. I understand that if new homeowners are removed from the queue I am standing in, it will benefit me. But seriously, I will not get immediate relief. I will have to continue to wait in some queue for another decade. I have been in the US since 1994, completed 6 years of education and have been employed since 2000. My PD was current for 2 months, I am still sitting here looking at a dismal October Visa Bulletin. Yes, I bought my house 4 years ago. Why can't I be included in this list?

    Should I promise to buy a second home? Will that put me in the category you are proposing?



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  • jsb
    06-03 04:24 PM
    All that is too complicated and it shows nothing except that USCIS is incompetent.

    But if we can prove that Country Quotas are discrimination and unconstitutional, that would be better and simpler. Supposedly the constitution says something like - "establish a uniform rule of naturalization" - and what is happening now is by no stretch of the imagination "uniform" and it definitely is discrimination and it goes against equal opportunity - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Equal_Opportunity_Employment - which includes equal opportunity based on national origin.

    Laws you quoted are for US residents, not for those wanting to be US residents. Country quota, I believe, is more sensitive and difficult to change. Of course, it is not working for the original intent to not have people from a few countries making US as their home.

    Work-arounds, we are so familiar with such as AOS, EAD, H1B beyond 6 yrs, etc., are easier to get in. For the current situation, simple work-around could be to adjudicate a case when all is good except the visa number, and send an interim GC card until visa number is available. When visa number is available, interim card could be replaced with a permanent card. In a nutshell, replace EAD/AP with an interim permanent resident card, and replace it with a permanent card when visa number is available.





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  • samay
    07-30 10:13 AM
    Dear Samay,

    Thanks for your quick reply.
    One more question, Can I apply for H1B Transfer while my H1B Extension already pending with USCIS and my I-94 also expired. (I have only my EAD and AP valid)

    Thank you so very much.

    Regards,
    Watzgc

    Yes you can.





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  • sk2006
    04-01 12:02 PM
    Has anyone asked you to read this? You clicked on the link yourself. If you are not interested in this thread, why dont you read something else instead of giving a hollow suggestion.

    You Idiot,
    When you keep updating this thread it keeps coming on top.
    I ignored it for a few days and finally clicked to see what the Fuck is going on here.

    Now it seems even moderators are joining this madness.

    If infighting keeps continuing on this forum and you keep discussing non-immigration related topics here, you will never get your green card. FOCUS!

    It is strange that you all want green card so that you live in USA but pretend to be SOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO concerned about Prime Minister of India and then start blaming each other..

    No wonder NumbersUSA etc are succeding..


    Pappu,
    Please remove my profile and user ID from the system. I can't be part of these morons. I shall get my GC when I shall have to get it. I am not here to discuss non-GC related issues. There are many more forums to do that.





    vdlrao
    07-21 08:14 PM
    I am amazed by your calculations and how much effort you put into this. What is the conclusion come october. EB2 I will move fwd or will be current or will be retrogressed?


    In 2007 the total EB1+EB2 VISAS are 70859

    IN THE WORST CASE the total (EB1+ EB2) Visas for 2008 are 111,016
    which are 40,000 more when you compared to 2007


    IN THE BEST CASE, (ASSUMING USCIS USES ALL 28,795 unused VISAS of AC21 FOR 2008 ) the total (EB1+ EB2) Visas for 2008 are 133,212
    which are 62,000 more when you compared to 2007.





    greensignal
    09-23 02:43 PM
    can somebody PM me the message and email addresses to send.

    Thank You!



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